Tuesday, July 9, 2013

Pinetree's commentia + Propagandolf the Grey, er JD - extended vers.



      • nietzscheisdead  Bushfan • 3 days ago
        Ah, JD, NotthatGirl, WilliamStuart + 1 guest vote (Hmmm. appears to be one missing at 4:34pm Saturday, July 6, 2013) - so you aren't really Libertarians and Liberals after all?
        Or maybe you believe in freedom only for the "right people"?

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        ".4)They act like a lunatic, get the cops called on them, then they threaten suicide."
        How does a lunatic act, NG?
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        "Pure delusion . . ."
        How do you know what a delusion is like WS?
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        "Who in their right minds would bring a business here with this governor as the so-called 'leader'. He's disgusting in every way."
        Are you implying that only people in their right minds can 'tell a green field ...from a cold steel rail' ...Narthy?
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        '"Crazy" people are also prohibited as are illegal drug users'
        And your definition of 'crazy' JD?
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      JD's quote is from Scott Thistle's 2:12 PM June 12, 2013 Lewiston Sun Journal / Bangor Daily News flamethrower: "Maine Rejects Call to Nix Concealed Weapons Permit Requirement" [scroll about 1/2 way down] :

      • jd2008jd • a month ago

      • ' If a terrorist wants to harm us they will find a way....Boeing 757s, 767s & pressure cookers come to mind.

        It is already illegal for a convicted felon to purchase from a FFL or from a private citizen a firearm of any kind.

        "Crazy" people are also prohibited as are illegal drug users. '



      I hope you won't mind - but it seems fitting to put Piney's thoughts first...

    thepinetreedemonreturns 

     Bangor Daily News

    Shooting victims, supporters bring their call for gun legislation to Maine

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Thief makes off with two massive brass doors to Bucksport tomb

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  18 hours ago
      I have no problem with regular tombs...but i thought those old storage ones weren't in use anymore...i guess i won't go poking around the one in my town afterall

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Man crushed in Bangor during Independence Day parade

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Firefighter driving antique truck that killed Holden man during parade placed on leave

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    How to cope after witnessing a traumatic event

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  a day ago
      • Difficulty sleeping or night terrors.
      • Intrusive images or thoughts of the event that don’t go away.
      • Inability to sleep or function in daily life.
      I must be screwed then...this happens to me practically every day

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Firefighter driving antique truck that killed Holden man during parade placed on leave

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Thief makes off with two massive brass doors to Bucksport tomb

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Details blurry on Calais shootings; police won’t release new information for several weeks

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Animal rights protesters at Brewer Walmart speak out against cruelty to pigs

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Police identify man crushed by antique firetruck at Independence Day parade

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Man crushed in Bangor during Independence Day parade

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Auburn woman pleads not guilty to murder in death of her 2½-year-old daughter

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Two hospitalized after vehicles collide at Bangor intersection

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Bangor police warn parade-goers to avoid downtown because of standoff at Park Street apartment

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Phish brings sweet sounds of summer tour to fans in Bangor

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  3 days ago
      the hippies made me dirty - i'm washing my shoes right now lol...
      i'm not a true hippie i went to mcdonalds and mowed down like 3 mcdoubles
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  3 days ago
      i was actually very surprised. I've been to bonnaroo many times, and this was the first show in Maine (i've seen phish 3 other times) that hasn't had a "mostly maine" crowd. It was peaceful, even when I tripped over people everyone was like "its ok man" or "sorry". It was a great time. If this had been a "maine people show" there would have no doubt been rioting, and wannabe thugs squealing tires on main street...
      next week's Rob Zombie another band i've seen; I pray for bangor...glad i have to work that night!
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  3 days ago
      I checked several hotels - even the motel 6 was booked - and nobody ever goes there...glad i had a friend i could crash with...

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Phish brings sweet sounds of summer tour to fans in Bangor

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  3 days ago
      I had a great time. This was my fourth show and I'm a local - this being the first for me at an actual PHISH show...not at a festival so it was a new experience kind of.
      I was surprised at the number of cops who were downtown and their restraint was incredious. I'm not going to say drinking in public is a good thing - even bought a few jello shots in front of a couple cops on shakedown lol! But BPD could've been handing out tickets left and right had they wanted and I finally felt at a show at the waterfronts - relaxed and in a good mood.
      The worst thing was the exit though. If there was a REAL emergency happening I'm sure there would be a human crush in that exit. Open both exits up next time.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Bangor police plan for Phish fan flood

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  4 days ago
      I've seen phish three times - all out of state, and with about 5X as many people attending. I partially agree with what you're saying because the concert venue itself is in a very poor location. I've been to Bangor waterfront concerts a few times - and very well know that there will be traffic congestion, confusion, large crowds, and probably pan-handlers looking for money. Thats the biggest problem. You add probably the largest crowd to a concert in bangor's history and its on a main artery into/out of bangor then we'll porbably have problems.
      I don't blame the phish show - I'm going tonight - I blame the poor placement of the conert venue itself.
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  4 days ago
      The spinning tire was probably not a phish fan
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  4 days ago
      thats what i'm hoping...its not gonna be a "bangor people" show...its going to be a "phish/hippie" show...most of us are generally more positive and laid back...i'm assuming the only thing you'll see in the news is probably arrests/charges for minor drug violations like marijuana. There won't be many wife beating, booze swiggling, drive your grandad's 30 year old truck people hopefully...
      The Pine Tree Demon
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  4 days ago
      i'll be there...hope they have some brownies being passed around...don't take the brown acid...

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Bangor Pride Festival attendees celebrate and ‘Keep up the Momentum’

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  6 days ago
      why not...i just think there would be a ban on the rainbow flag...and of course things like : https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic...
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  6 days ago
      I'm not saying it to anger anyone. I'm just honestly wondering why don't we organize a straight pride parade in Bangor? I'm not particularly religious but I believe in being straight and my love of female anatomy. I don't get why people are so against it. I accept homosexuality as an everyday occurance and pretty much what the world has come to. Be prideful you are gay - but why can't I be prideful that I"m straight? Some people on here say that "it happens everyday" but you don't see actual parades, or festivals encouraging heterosexuality. I am proud of who I am - and I think we should have an equal right to celebrate our individuality
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  6 days ago
      I'm asoury
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  6 days ago
      lol ia gree
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  6 days ago
      thats the point i'm trying to make; i really honestly don't care if you're gay or not...i haven't met a gay or lesbian that hasn't said "i'm gay" within our first conversation

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Bangor Pride Festival attendees celebrate and ‘Keep up the Momentum’

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Harlem Globetrotters slated as first event for Cross Center

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Sharing the road: Recent Portland run-in and Hanover fatality test thin line between bicyclists and motorists in Maine

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  6 days ago
      i think it is time that we, as americans come to an open and honest discussion about these 'bicycles', Americans DO NOT need them. what purpose does a bike have other than to cause accidents and irritation to licensed drivers.
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  6 days ago
      these 'hell on two wheels' need to be ended. nothing as ignorant as a bicycle...
      just an hour ago i passed a person coming down route 15 on a bike on a curve...taking up the road almost causing an accident...

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    English man facing multiple charges after attempting to meet Levant teenager

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Capturing Phish fans through the years

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  7 days ago
      i saw phish for the first time with about 80,000+ people...im sure bangor can handle less than 5,000 people showing up. also typically aside from marijuana and magic mushrooms, possibly molly...phish fans aren't really going to bring the criminal element. i bet there will be a ton of cops as there is everytime these concerts go on. i think its pathetic...especially for something like phish...im just gonna bring a blanket and a bowl and pass out

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Bangor Pride Festival attendees celebrate and ‘Keep up the Momentum’

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  7 days ago
      im just saying what if there was an actual parade? in downtown bangor...not christian or wbc related just...straight normal people...not drag queens, not people with feathers...just straight people...
      maybe a a little tit
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  8 days ago
      what if there was a straight parade? i bet there'd be a riot

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Passing runner saves woman after car lands upside-down in raging Carrabassett River

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Farmingdale toddler dies from injuries suffered in pool accident

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Capturing Phish fans through the years

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  8 days ago
      i thought bout going to it this year. i've seen phish 3 times...all out of state...but yeah...it looks like a cold hard rain that day...if not i might go still

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Bangor police chief admits ‘serious mistake’ led to accidentally shooting himself

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Demolition of the old Bangor auditorium from start to finish

    • thepinetreedemonreturns  8 days ago
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
      that was the wrong version
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  8 days ago
      i wish i was there we could've set off fireworks
    • thepinetreedemonreturns  8 days ago
      good riddance



      JD Propagandolf the Grey

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bail set at $100,000 for man accused in Fourth of July shooting in downtown Bangor

        • jd2008jd  an hour ago
          Was George Zimmerman "over charged"?
        • jd2008jd  an hour ago
          I wouldn't expect DA Almy to charge him with anything more then he was charged with. He is after all the DA that stated there is no penalty for failing to report suspected abuse of a child when you are a mandated reporter. That counselor is a flat out lie....there is a civil penalty for failure to report.
          I voted for DA Almy in the past but NEVER will again. He has no intestinal fortitude and Mickey Mouse would make a better DA.
          Given your stated position on firearms I would think you of all people would want to see this case prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. His crime caused a parade route to be moved. Both the tractor and the fire engine had successfully negotiated the normal parade route numerous times in the past. But when the parade route was changed due to the shooter it resulted in the death of a man. That at the very least is manslaughter.
        • jd2008jd  14 hours ago
          Why did you only list legal methods? Are you agenda driven? Maybe he's one of the prohibited person that the Obama administration decided not to prosecute for violation of the Brady Bill. By the way any firearm he touched was illegal for him to possess.
        • jd2008jd  16 hours ago
          Hmmmm...do you know how he came into possession of the firearm? Could it have been stolen? Could he have purchased it on the black market? Could he have traded another illegal substance for it?
        • jd2008jd  16 hours ago
          Why do you think he was charged with "possession of a firearm by a prohibited person" counselor ?
        • jd2008jd  19 hours ago
          I never said he could be charged with felony murder.
          But he can certainly be charged with manslaughter which is reckless conduct that causes another person death.
          Now would you like to answer the question asked?
          "Would you make the same argument about someone that is driving down the road and the brakes go out, hits and kills someone and during the investigation it's discovered they have a BAC of .10?"
        • jd2008jd  20 hours ago
          I DO understand the law and a case could be made. The parade route was changed because of his actions.
          Would you make the same argument about someone that is driving down the road and the brakes go out, hits and kills someone and during the investigation it's discovered they have a BAC of .10?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Environmental activists protest outside railway headquarters in Hermon after oil explosion

        • jd2008jd  19 hours ago
          "You have always protected corporate. no pan handlers allowed, Right?
          And you can show I have said that where? Please try and prove that statement Now. I really want you to try. Please.
          ~~~~~
          "only corporate welfare"
          Actually I was against bailing out the insurance companies, Wall Street, the auto manufacturers, etc...If a business fails they fail. It's not up to government or the tax payer to bail them out. Nothing is to big to fail.
        • jd2008jd  19 hours ago
          Quick call the RCMP patom1 has solved the mystery!!
        • jd2008jd  20 hours ago
          So typical when asked for proof to back up claims we get the "do you own homework son" response. I didn't make the claim you did which means you need to provide the proof....that is IF there is proof which I highly doubt based on your response.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Environmental activists protest outside railway headquarters in Hermon after oil explosion

        • jd2008jd  20 hours ago
          "blow up a train so people beg for a pipeline" sure reads like a claim when preceded by "jd who funds these enviro groups if it isn't corporate? cause and effect."
          Again, care to share with the rest of us your sourcing material? Who are those "corporate" folks that are funding "these enviro groups"?
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          Care to provide some source material to back up your claim?
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          Could you provide a link to substantiate your claim please and thank you.
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          Once again I see you edited your comment. What's the matter....don't believe in your original post?
          Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics.
          Yes your original comment about his English skills was bigoted. Peter, Paul & Mary once sang a song about bigots written by Pete Seeger called "LISTEN, MISTER BILBO" you might wish to listen to it.
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          Hardle....here some reading material for you on "Ecoterrorism: Extremism in the Animal Rights and Environmentalist Movements" from the Anti-Defimation League.
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          I see you edited your comment from the original. That's OK...my post was in response to your comment about Maine not having any jobs that pay a living wage.
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          They don't have to release the brakes. When the engine loses power the compressor that feeds the air brakes stop working. After a period of time the air brakes bleed off and stop working. Any hand brake set may not be enough to hold a five engine 75 car train in place.
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          Most BDN poll questions are "pointless".
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          From several reports I have read the engineer set the air brakes, the hand brake, left one engine in idle and left the train to get some sleep.
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          "Why is it "Reporters" are afraid of reasonable questions?"
          Because it might show the truth not what the BDN or other media outlets believe is the truth.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Environmental activists protest outside railway headquarters in Hermon after oil explosion

        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          When you have nothing to respond with resort ti bigotry and insult....very accepting of you.
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          ELF has burned down car dealerships and driven large spikes into trees to prevent harvesting (or to injure/kill the loggers). It's happened before and will happen again. Did it is this case? Don't know....yet.
        • jd2008jd  21 hours ago
          Baloney
        • jd2008jd  a day ago
          You left out one small detail in your story BDN. Prior to the detailment a fire of unknown origin was discovered and extinguished in one of the engines by a local fire department. It was after that fire that the air brake or hand brake either failed or was released by parties unknown and the train began its engineerless ride to derailment and subsequent explosion.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Shooting victims, supporters bring their call for gun legislation to Maine

        • jd2008jd  a day ago
          And your point would be what? I recall seeing still photos of Ialin effergies hanging at the end of a rope during that election cycle. Should we believe the person was calling for the hanging of Palin?
        • jd2008jd  a day ago
          But that's not what you posted. You posted an absolute "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" and that isn't true. You absolutely can "yell fire in a crowded theater".
          If things were absolute we would have zero crime.
        • jd2008jd  a day ago
          So I take it from your response that you haven't read the SCOTUS Heller decision.
          That decision answers the "well regulated militia" question. Membership and/or enlistment is not required in order to exercise ones Second Amendment right to "keep and bear arms".
          You may want to read it and educate yourself on that decision.
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Wrong. SCOTUS specifically ruled in the Heller decision that membership or enlistment in a "well regulated militia" is NOT necessary for an individual to exercise their Second Amendment right to "keep and bear arms". Period.
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          I recall President Obama assuring the American public and electorate that under his administration these programs would not happen. So, why aren't YOU calling out the President?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Church congregation marches to downtown Bangor bridge in memory of Charlie Howard man killed 29 years ago

        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Go buy a real ad and stop taking what other people are posting and using it for your get rich quick scam.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Shooting victims, supporters bring their call for gun legislation to Maine

        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Hollow point ammunition is not "illegal".
          And based on your post I doubt you have ever fired a weapon in your life. "Blowing" apart targets? Really? Hollow points are not explosive and are carried by LEO everyday of the week as a duty round.
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Do you mean like the NSA, FBI, CIA, IRS, etc...has been doing under the Obama administration?
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          And those numbers have been falling since the poll you reference. January 2013 really?
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          My Grandfather used to say "there are lies, damn lies and statistics".
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          It is currently illegal for a person to purchase a firearm from a FFL for anyone other than themselves unless it is intended as a gift.
          It is currently illegal for a person to purchase a firearm from a FFL for a felon.
          What you are proposing is to make something illegal which is all ready illegal.
          Why do we need to do this? Are we not currently enforcing existing laws?
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Income taxes are not "voluntary". My employer does not allow me to "opt" out of paying both federal and state income tax on my wages.
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          No, what is said is one law abiding citizen attempting to limit another law abiding citizens rights under the U.S. Constitution instead of enforcing existing laws and prosecuting those that break those laws.
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Actually you CAN yell fire in a crowded theater.
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Have you bothered to read what the Heller decision says about "well regulated militia?"
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Of course they don't. Those little facts just get in the way of the agenda.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Shooting victims, supporters bring their call for gun legislation to Maine

        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Two questions:
          1. How many prohibited people are prosecuted for violation of the Brady Bill for attempting to purchase a firearm?
          2. How do you think criminals like the Newtown shooter obtained his firearms?
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          What "truth"?
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Don't pay any attention to the thumbs down. It's meaningless as are the thumbs up too.
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          No, the blame should be placed were it should be on the shooter. Next would be on those people that refuse to enforce existing laws. Do I need to repost the report and statistics on enforcement of the Brady bill?
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          The truth is the AR-15 was a used firearm and per local ordinance was held for 20 days prior to purchase. It was during those 20 days that the store learned the reason Mr. Kelley was making the purchase was to show how "simple" it was to obtain a AR-15. The store cancelled the purchase and returned the money to Mr. Kelley.
          So what would you call that?
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Mark Kelly. On March 5th 2013, Kelly visited Diamondback Police Supply in Tucson, selected an AR-15 style rifle, a .45 caliber handgun, and some high capacity magazines, completed a background check and paid for his purchases.
          Within days, the story broke nationally and Kelly claimed that his purchases were made to highlight how easy it is to get a gun. He also added that he intended to turn the AR-15 into the Tucson Police. He intended on keeping the .45 caliber handgun.
          So if he wanted to make a point about how "easy" it was to purchase a firearm why did he use a FFL? He knew he had to complete a background check.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        How to cope after witnessing a traumatic event

        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          But it wasn't was it.
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Care to quote me in total?
        • jd2008jd  2 days ago
          Problem is the shooter knew that his actions of popping off some 70+ rounds could lead to the death of innocent bystander.
          So the parade route was changed to protect the parade participants and bystanders from this person who decided for whatever reason to start popping off rounds.
          Both the tractor and the fire engine have been in this parade before and successfully navigated the mapped our parade route.
          Was a mechanical failure a contributory cause? Yes.
          Was the shooter a contributory cause? IMHO Yes he was.
          Should the shooter be charge with murder? No
          Should the shooter be charge with manslaughter? Yes
          That's not a conspiracy theory....it's called a legal theory.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Fourth of July parade crash victim recalled as giving, humble

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Firefighter driving antique truck that killed Holden man during parade placed on leave

        • jd2008jd  3 days ago
          If the parade route had not been changed the tractor and the engine would not have been required to make two right hand declining radius turns. Both of these vehicles have been in prior Bangor-Brewer 4th of July Parades without incident. Even if there was a mechanical defect a case could be made that the change in route out excess stress on the equipment causing the failure.
        • jd2008jd  3 days ago
          A good prosecutor (and I have lost all faith in DA Almy) could easily make a case for manslaughter. Perrin Oliver actions the morning of July 4th was a proximate cause of Mr. Felanson's untimely death. If he had not started shooting up the neighborhood and causing the parade route to change Mr. Felanson most likely would be alive today.
        • jd2008jd  3 days ago
          Ryan it had EVERYTHING to do with the shooting. The parade route was changed because of the shooting. A death result because of the change of route.
        • jd2008jd  3 days ago
          Yup he is for real and is correct. Perrin Oliver started a chain of events that lead to the death of an individual.
          Perrin Oliver decided to shoot up the neighborhood he lived in which lead to the parade route being changed to keep participants and bystanders out of the line of fire. You don't have to have "seen" or "known" about the potential outcome of your actions to be charged with murder.
        • jd2008jd  3 days ago
          Your correct it was "avoidable"...if the Perrin Oliver hadn't decided to shoot up the neighborhood the parade route would not have been changed and this incident would likely never have occurred.
        • jd2008jd  3 days ago
          "autotorium"?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        How to cope after witnessing a traumatic event

        • jd2008jd  3 days ago
          I thought the same thing but from a "personnel" issue point of view. It says we "referred" him but that doesn't mean he has sought any assistance at this point. I still believe they (Bangor FD) is walking on a very thin line when it comes to commenting on "personnel" matters like this.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        GOP to mix fundraiser with concealed handgun permit training event

        • jd2008jd  6 days ago
          How is this article about LePage?
        • jd2008jd  6 days ago
          Resorting to personal attacks always means you have lost the argument. I accept your surrender.
        • jd2008jd  6 days ago
          When you cannot defend your position just say the other person is "deflecting" the argument. I suppose if you could defend your position you would. But it seems you cannot...now thumb down this post and move on.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        GOP to mix fundraiser with concealed handgun permit training event

        • jd2008jd  6 days ago
          "Smile, if the free cell phone stuff happened, it was a decent marketing tool wasn't it?"
          If? You don't get around Bangor much do you. I have personally observed a orange and green easy up with a custom cover with the words "FREE CELL PHONE" on all four sides.
          Hammond Street Congregational Church, Pickering Square and the park across the street from the Bangor Homeless Shelter are three sites I have seen this set up.
          ~~~~~
          "Marketing tool"?
          No....taxpayer money is what it is.
          ~~~~~
          "If the Republicans had thought of using free cell phones first it would have been ok?"
          No I wouldn't be "OK" with it. Remember the President Obama supporter back in 2008 that couldn't wait for the President to pay her "mortgage", put "gas in her tank", etc....That was why she was voting for him. How much more can we afford to "give" until it all comes crashing down on top of us.
        • jd2008jd  6 days ago
          If you don't agree with my positions challenge me. But no, you decide to respond to those that agree with you.
        • jd2008jd  6 days ago
          Stunt - an unusual and difficult physical feat or an act
          requiring a special skill, performed for artistic purposes usually on
          TV, theatre, or cinema.
          I don't think it fits the accepted definition.
        • jd2008jd  6 days ago
          I seem to recall President Obama saying he was the answer.
          His economic stimulus commission published a paper stating that unemployment would skyrocket without the stimulus package. Congress gave him what he asked for and the unemployment rate skyrocketed with it.
          The ACA was going to be the answer for people without health care. Now the employer mandate has been pushed off and California insurance companies are cancelling individual policies effective January 1, 2014.
          If President Obama were a Republican you would be calling for his head. Instead many people turn a blind eye to what is happening and pat him of the back for the job he is doing.
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          You should see if you can get a refund for the history class that taught you that rubish.
          The Founders just finished a long protracted war for Independence against the best trained and equipped army in the word. They didn't believe in standing armies and believed in the militia system of every able bodied male in the community.
          Heller settled the meaning of "welll regulated militia".
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Is this from the post I responded to? "Sure, but the difference is that while Democrats do and have done things that citizens and society need/needed and appreciated, the GOP/Tea Party has consistently narrowly focused their efforts on those who already have everything they could ever need."
          I'm asking if free cell phones is one of those things the Democrats felt was a society "need/needed and appreciated".v
          No deflection, just a question.
          But I have discovered that uncomfortable question suddenly become "deflection", "distractions" or some other similar word. Rather than attempting to answer the question or justify the program it's far easier to to hide behind "deflection", "distraction" or some other similar word.
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          And the Democrat governors never accept paid junkets and "training" sessions right?
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Free Cell phones are needed?
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Then our elected officials lack the principle to stand up and make their vote count. Please explain why I should continue to vote for people like this.
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Town hall style political rallies are now how we "authorize" bills now. Really?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        GOP to mix fundraiser with concealed handgun permit training event

        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Seems to me that both sides do it so well they don't need any help.
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Maybe reading Heller would clear up the "REGULATED" part for you.
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          They would have to deal with BOTH the US and Maine Constitutions. Maine's is much more specific
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Thanks for putting words in my mouth...it is greatly appreciated. I hope you understand sarcasm when you read it but just in case you don't....that was sarcasm.
          Now, if you don't think that both sides do the same thing that is something that I cannot help. One party is in control and the other side tries every tactic in the book to stay relevant
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Agreed
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Yes voted out....so afraid that they will be voted out that they lack principle. That's the problem with both parties.
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          "Pounding at the polls"? I don't see the Presidents "coat tails" extending very far come the mid-term election.
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          You didn't clarify anything. You do what you and a few others do oh so very well...make unrelated post and comments and when other posters question you and others scream "deflection....deflection...".
          The story is about a fund raiser with a CCW class coupled with it.
          Care to comment about the story itself?
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          As I don't smoke I will not miss it. However, the event was called a "stunt"....how is that different then using families to promote an agenda?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Two Maine teens take home gold in national Skills USA competition

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        GOP to mix fundraiser with concealed handgun permit training event

        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          According to Heller that would be the citizen to your right and the citizen to your left.
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          "First you're gonna have to tell me why you're asking a question that is rather unrelated to my comment."
          The story is about the GOP holding a fundraiser and linking a CCW class with the fundraiser. You introduced "Well at least this time they’re leaving out God, sheets, zygotes and fetuses."
          You then make the statement "Why they can’t simply stop continuously hating on people who are not them or like them is anyone’s guess."
          ~~~~~
          So how is ANY of you original post related to the article posted to the BDN website? Or "Is this another case of deflection to turn a conversation in a direction you'd prefer it to go in?"
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          How is holding a fund raiser with a CCW class "hating on people"?
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Really?
          The Presidents flies around families on the taxpayers dime to promote his agenda at "town hall meetings".
          The Maine GOP is holding a fund raising event with a CCW class and no tax funds are being used.
          Your right...no comparison.
        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Do you feel the same way when the Presidents flies families of firearm violence around the country to attend "town hall meetings"?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Two reported dead in Clifton motorcycle accident

        • jd2008jd  7 days ago
          Never claimed to be better than anyone else. But I DON'T pass judgement on people killed in accidents. People are grieving...let them grieve.
        • jd2008jd  8 days ago
          I am sorry for you loss but your words will be lost on many that post here as evidenced by two thumbs down. Many are callous, uncaring and live for the suffering of others.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Sheriff: Flat funding from state may force layoffs at Penobscot County Jail

        • jd2008jd  8 days ago
          In essence that is the reason for the problem. The "consolidated jail system" is under the Department of Corrections.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Harlem Globetrotters slated as first event for Cross Center

        • jd2008jd  8 days ago
          Save your fingers with Bangorian....it could be Taylor Swift and he would say something like....What????? Another country act....is that what we built this for?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Capturing Phish fans through the years

        • jd2008jd  9 days ago
          I bet things will be back to normal by the time the fireworks go off over Bangor on the 4th!

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Hockey East approves new playoff format for 11-team league

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        Bangor police chief admits ‘serious mistake’ led to accidentally shooting himself

        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Yes, Glock 23 since 1997
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Just a couple of quick points.
          1. I looked at the Springfield XD series and dislike the disassemble method they use. That's my personal opinion and I know several people that own and like this firearm.
          2. While the FBI may have issued a report in 1988 they have since adopted 7 different versions of the Glock 17, 19, 21, 22, 23, 26 and 27.
          3. Right or wrong Glock has 65% of the U.S. law enforcement market.
          The only way a Glock will fire is to pull the trigger. As near as I can tell from reading the article titles you provided was in each and every instance it was handler negligence.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          I do believe we have established the safe and proper way to disassemble a Glock several times and also established the Chief did not follow safe and proper gun handling. Continuing to go over and over is rather pointless don't you think?
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          If your so curious why they purchased new firearms call and ask.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Never made a mistake in your life? Not even one?
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          You don't understand Workers Compensation very well do you.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          He could have attemtped to blame the weapon for starters, the instructions provided by Sgt Bishop, etc... He didn't.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Written like someone with zero knowledge of law enforcement, workers compensation, England, etc...
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          According to whom? You?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor police chief admits ‘serious mistake’ led to accidentally shooting himself

        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          I respect your opinion but to state that a firearm could not be secured is not true. There are any number of different ways a firearm could be secured from "little fingers" and still remain available for use.
          And I believe that teachers are more than capable of defending students. Many, many people when faced with life threatening situations do things they would not normally do on an everyday basis.
          Here are two different versions of the same story published in todays BDN.
          "Passing runner saves woman after car lands upside-down in raging Carrabassett River" http://bangordailynews.com/201...
          "Early morning driver takes detour, saves woman from drowning"http://bangordailynews.com/201...
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Let's look at trigger pulls of striker fired semi-auto pistols vs. double action semi-auto pistols.
          First two examples of striker fired pistols.
          Factory trigger pull for a Glock 23 is 5.5 pounds.
          Factory trigger pull for a Ruger SR40C is 6.4 pounds
          Next an example of double action semi-auto pistol.
          Factory trigger pull for a Ruger P95 14 pounds double action and 5 pounds single action.
          I have fired both single action, double action and striker fired pistols. In my opinion the single action and/or striker fired pistols are superior to double action pistols for one very important reason....the trigger pull is the same on each and every shot. With double action pistols the first pull is long and subsequent trigger pulls are very short. In training it is all about muscle memory and knowing when the trigger breaks on each and every shot is very important. Again, that is just my opinion.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Please explain under what conditions a teacher would be disassembling the firearm for cleaning in a classroom.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          If you're going to conduct a study to determine how many times a firearm kept in a home are used in other than self defense cases and then use any firearm use (kept or brought into the home) it matters a great deal. It actually corrupts the study and makes the data garbage.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Just like any other semi-auto pistol...you pull back on the slide and look. The chief didn't do this step prior to pulling the trigger.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Why would you say that?
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          The example offered is not even remotely similar to what happened here.
          Difference #1 - he lied to police.
          Difference #2 - he was "checking the trigger system" when the firearm went "off". He wasn't preparing the firearm for cleaning.
          The steps for cleaning a Glock include pulling the trigger after clearing the firearm. What the Chief did was stupid, ignorant and yes reckless for not clearing the firearm prior to pulling the trigger but did it rise to the level of a criminal charge? I don't think so.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          See my answer below pretty...sometimes I don't understand why people thumb down when the person is asking legitimate question when they don't understand why something is this way or that.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          You do not need to pull the trigger of the Glock to release the magazine (or as some people call it the clip).
          To strip down a Glock for cleaning you remove the magazine. Pull back on the slide and look to see if a round is in the chamber and release the slide. Point in a safe direction i.e. at no living thing and pull the trigger. Then you pull back on the slide again, look again and release the slide again and pull the trigger again. You then (and I not going to even attempt to describe hand position but at no time is the hand in front of the barrel) pull back of the slide approximately 1/4 of an inch and with your other hand engage two tabs on either side of the frame and allow slide to slide forward and off the frame.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Hockey East approves new playoff format for 11-team league

        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          I didn't realize AD Abbott approved the schedule for all of Hockey East schools.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor police chief admits ‘serious mistake’ led to accidentally shooting himself

        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Ms. Davies first teachers are not "stupid". Second neither are gun owners.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Actually no it wasn't her point as she said "Thank goodness this could never possibly happen in a crowded classroom..."
          "This" referring to the article would be a teacher disassembling a firearm for cleaning.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          There are several errors in Kellerman's study and he even admits one of them but never corrected the study.
          "The students of Dr. Mark Ferris's Mathematical Statistics 460" class
          asked, "In how many of the homicides was the victim killed with a gun that
          was kept in the house rather than a gun that was brought to the house
          by the perpetrator?" Kellerman responded "Ninety-three percent of the homicides involving firearms occurred in homes where a gun was kept, according to the proxy respondents." Interesting that he doesn't make a distinction between "kept" and not used and "kept" and used. Four year later in another letter Kellermann acknowledges his error, but fails to directly answer the question or correct the study. The New England Journal of Medicine -- February 3, 1994 -- Volume 330, Number 5
          Another issue is using cases involving households with a history of arrests, drug use and violence. When those households are removed the rates fall to 7% from those you note. We already know that violence begets violence and when you lead a violent life you are more likely to be the victim of violence.
          Kellerman has never directly responded to any of the issues his fellow researches have brought up with his 1993 study.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          I love my Glock 23...best shooting handgun out of the box I have ever seen. Reliable and simple too.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Ms. Davies explain why a teacher would be disassembling a firearm in a classroom setting please and thank you.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Why can the BPD not investigate this? It's pretty cut and dry. Chief wasn't paying attention (admited), failed to clear his weapon and shot himself.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          I can't think of one person that has ever been prosecuted for shooting themselves while cleaning their weapon unless it injured someone besides themselves.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          He was.
        • jd2008jd  10 days ago
          Is he?
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Detailed explanation - he failed to clear his weapon, pulled the trigger while his left hand was in front of the barrel, weapon discharge, round struck the left hand of the chief causing bodily injury. Anything else?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor bus users want downtown hub, say moving out won’t solve Pickering Square problems

        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          One persons art is another person junk.
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          So the curvy sculpture is art and nothing else is...mighty open minded of you.
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Why don't you spend a few hours at council meetings...that way you might actually achieve some of your goals and objectives.
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Gee seems the article talked about the congestion around Pickering Square, etc..."you people"? I'm not "you people" but you wouldn't understand that.
          Here's some advice for you.
          1. Don't assume you know ANYTHING about the posters here...you don't.
          2. Don't like what the city council is doing...start attending council meetings.
          3. Learn how laws/ordinances are passed...normally it takes a government entity to do it.
          4. Don't like the laws/ordinances being passed...refer to #2 above and make you public voice heard where it counts.
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Yes it is. By foot it's approximately a 3 minute walk. By motor vehicle it's approximately a 1 minute drive.
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          How do we know they aren't doing that already? Remember they tracked the killer of the woman from downtown to behind Hollywood slots through surveillance tapes?
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          "The skate park is ridiculous too, jd."
          I didn't bring up the skate park...that was TheyreTheirThereNow
          ~~~~~
          "Where are our beautiful green spaces that made the City welcoming?"
          Nothing has happened to them. They are still there if you care to go look. Stop trying to make an issue out of nothing.
          ~~~~~
          "Oh, under a brick building in several locations. And between bars in another."
          Care to list those site?
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          In your opinion it looks "ridiculous". I haven't heard one other person express that opinion. I have however read another poster say that about the sculpture in general. One person art is another persons junk.
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Does that belief hold for ALL art work? How did you feel about the Governor removing the panels from the Department of Labor? Don't they belong to the people of Maine?
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Only to those that think the way you do.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor bus users want downtown hub, say moving out won’t solve Pickering Square problems

        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Didn't you just say in response to me "Personally it is not your choice where it goes"? Doesn't the same hold true for you?
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          And it's not yours either..."They stuck it in the ground on the waterfront where it looks ridiculous."
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Did you even read this story? It said the majority of people that spoke want the hub to stay. It said that safety concerns revolve around buses, pedestrian traffic and car traffic congestion in the circle was still a problem. It went on to say that the foot patrol added by BPD has resolved many of the safety concerns of fighting, etc...
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          I didn't twist anything. You stated the fountain wasn't a danger and was moved anyway. I asked you who said it was a danger.
          So now you want to move onto the "skate park" and lack of sidewalks. Why? How is that related to the topic of the article. Oh, I don't have any "friends" at city hall. This discussion is t about class warfare. It's about where the hub of the BAT should be located.
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Who said the fountain was a "danger to anyone"? Please provide the origin of your statement.
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          They already DO fund the foot patrol. Who do you think does it the "foot patrol fairy?"
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          What extra revenue from tickets are you talking about? We have three part-time individuals handing out tickets already. The city is considering privatizing that function so forget about that.
          Another poster said let the "downtown businesses" pay for it. OK so the next time you need the fire department or a police officer or a tree removed from in front of your house should the city should send you the bill?
        • jd2008jd  11 days ago
          Personally I think it looks better on the waterfront. At least it looks like it belongs there with the gentle curves resembling rolling waves.
        • jd2008jd  12 days ago
          I guess you missed the foot patrol BPD added in the Downtown and the article this past week about it. It's the only area of the chit that has a dedicated foot patrol. If the added the "permanent police substation" like you suggest you will then scream that you not want to pay for it or let the BAT pay for it or maybe Hollywood Casino should pay for it or some other such nonsense.
        • jd2008jd  12 days ago
          As the Bangor Police Department is less than one minute away by cruiser and maybe three minutes walking time wouldn't a "permanent police substation" be a duplication of services and a waste of taxpayer money?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Trek Across Maine crash report shows big rig’s draft helped cause fatality

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        Charges dropped against Ellsworth officer accused of domestic violence assault

        • jd2008jd  12 days ago
          Recall the old "innocent until proven guilty" part of our criminal justice system?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        U.S. Supreme Court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

        • jd2008jd  12 days ago
          Yes they do....and pay dearly for it through sales taxes (contrary to popular belief "Universal Health Care" is not "free" health care). And if they cannot obtain the necessary care or wait on a list they go where? To the United States.
        • jd2008jd  12 days ago
          "hero"? Do you use that term for sports figures too?
        • jd2008jd  12 days ago
          Brush away....at least you know your wrong for doing so. Just be careful who you paint with the brush. You don't know me and while I might be a "registered" Republican I voted for Cutler, King and Michaud. Voted not to repeal SSM (first vote) and voted to support SSM (second vote).
        • jd2008jd  12 days ago
          Please don't say something that I'm not doing. I gave an example of the current (I tend to live in the current not the past) administration.
          If the Founding Fathers designed three branches of government that are equal in power, one no more or less important then the other then they need ALL be held to the same standards.
          We can learn from the past and at some point in our future we are going to look back on this point in our history and wonder what happened? How did we allow our government to get so our of hand? One can hope that we can learn from these examples of government (at all levels) of excess but as we seem to repeat the same problems over and over I some how we will learn anything from it.
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          Not confused about anything. You want a government above reproach then you need to have high standards across the board.
          Remember the President telling the country he would limit Lobbyists on Capital Hill and no one would serve on his administration that had been a Lobbyist within a certain time frame?
          Remember he appointed a Secretary of the Treasury with "tax issues" and look where we find ourselves now.
          We have a right to expect our leaders to set the standard and if you are going to hold the judiciary branch to one standard and not the rest....well that's just looking for problems.
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          Will you hold elected members of Congress of all parties to the same standard? How about members that hold positions of influence within the administration? How many spouses of President Obama's staff hold positions within the news media?
          Are you high standards for the Republicans the same for Democrats?
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          I'm not debating the number of 5-4 decisions. I stated that some of the most important decisions are 5-4 decisions. One that immediately comes to mind is the 1966 Miranda v. Arizona decisions.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        ACLU of Maine praise Supreme Court’s decision to overturn DOMA

        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          My marriage was not impacted one iota by this decision nor when Maine voters approved SSM last year. How is this "not good" for Americans?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Maine House overrides LePage budget veto; fate rests with Senate

        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          But you're wrong.
          The first section of the autobahn was built prior to Hitler's rise to power. Construction on the Köln-Bonn Autobahn began in 1929 and was opened in 1932 (Hitler rose to power in 1933).
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          Oh please....just push yourself away from the keyboard if you are going to make such comments.
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          They didn't the last time it happened.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        U.S. Supreme Court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          Every single Justice did something prior to nomination. 52 people found him suitable for the court. As I stated above, there is a impeachment process. It starts with the House.
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          My facts are straight. I don't believe what a spouse does or doesn't do should either qualify or disqualify a person from high office. Supreme Court Justices are subject to impeachment...have a problem write a letter to your U.S. Representative.
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          I'm still waiting for all the people fleeing the military and the lose of unit cohesion that so many predicted.
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          So what a spouse does should disqualify them from holding high office? Careful what you ask for as Democrats marry too,
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          All but one have spouses. http://www.businessinsider.com...
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          Some of the most important decisions have been 5-4. I'm sure if the ruling went the other way you would be calling them "wise" jurists.
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          How has SSM impacted Canada? Seems they have been doing very well.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Maine House overrides LePage budget veto; fate rests with Senate

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        U.S. Supreme Court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

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        Bangor police chief accidentally shoots self with new duty weapon

        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          It's not an accident if your hand is in-front of the barrel as you are clearing the firearm. It's ignorance or lack of attention but not an accident.
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          He is 100% correct. Glocks don't fire unless you pull the trigger. They have three safety's and will not fire if any of them fails.
        • jd2008jd  13 days ago
          There is only one way this happened. The Chief failed to properly clear his firearm and pulled the trigger while his hand was in front of the barrel.
        • jd2008jd  14 days ago
          He required emergency surgery for a gun shoot wound to his left hand.
        • jd2008jd  14 days ago
          But no one ever required emergency surgery from a misspelling.
        • jd2008jd  14 days ago
          No defect....the field stripping process for a Glock is very specific. Remove the magazine, engage the slide, LOOK to insure nothing is in the chamber, point in a safe direction, pull trigger, engage slide again, LOOK to insure nothing is in the chamber again, point in safe direction, pull trigger again. Then continue with field stripping.

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        Bangor council passes amended ‘workable’ budget with 6 percent tax hike

        • jd2008jd  14 days ago
          "I did a little research and if our property values go up so does their share of financing."
          When a city or towns valuation goes up the monies they receive from the state goes down.
          ~~~~~
          "Revenue share may never happen again."
          Worse case scenario is 2 years and that's only if Governor LePage's budget passes in total. It wont.
          ~~~~~
          " So when they said the TIF funds were going to be paying for part of the Arena they actually ment the property tax payer?"
          No, the only funds that go to the TIF are those from the entity that has the TIF status. In this case Hollywood Casino.
          ~~~~
          I thought you were serious about leaning about TIFs and what hey are. The new Arena benefits far more than a few downtown businesses.
        • jd2008jd  14 days ago
          Tax increment financing, or TIF, is a public financing method that is used as a subsidy for redevelopment, infrastructure, and other community-improvement projects.
          It takes taxes that would be paid and places those dollars in a TIF account which can only be used for certain approved projects within a TIF district (i.e. Bangor Downtown TIF can only be used to support, improve services, infrastructure, etc...within the district) that meet state guidelines.
          It also "shields" (for lack of a better word) those taxes being counted by the state and county governments. That means they cannot be counted towards the state portion of the school budget, revenue sharing, etc...which would mean those state funds would be reduced as the value of the city increases.
          That is the down and dirty explanation of a TIF.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor police chief accidentally shoots self with new duty weapon

        • jd2008jd  14 days ago
          And if you pay attention to what you are doing the pulling the trigger while pointed in a safe direction is not an issue.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        26 taken to hospitals after lightning strike at N.H. Boy Scout camp

        • jd2008jd  14 days ago
          Not sure if that is true or not but you are more likely to be struck by lightening then being charged and prosecuted for attempting to purchase a firearm from a FFL...in 2010 13 felons/prohibited people either plead guilty or were found guilty out of 76,142 NICS rejections.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor council passes amended ‘workable’ budget with 6 percent tax hike

        • jd2008jd  14 days ago
          Do you know what a TIF is?
        • jd2008jd  14 days ago
          So the buckets and tarps at the library are for what? And who should pay for education?
          If you have an issues with how money is spent go to a council meeting and express your displeasure. I wonder when the last council meeting was that you attended.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        New law places more responsibility for cyclists’ safety on motorists

        • jd2008jd  15 days ago
          Collision: A collision is an isolated event in which two or more moving
          bodies (colliding bodies) exert forces on each other for a relatively
          short time.
          Although the most common colloquial use of the word "collision" refers to accidents in which two or more objects collide, the scientific use of the word
          "collision" implies nothing about the magnitude of the forces.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor asking residents for ideas on future of Pickering Square bus hub

        • jd2008jd  15 days ago
          Correct it terminates at North Station where all northbound trains terminate and is connected to South Station by the MBTA Green Line to South Station with a change at Park Street.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Off another dismal year, UMaine and Athletic Director Abbot feeling pressure to perform

        • jd2008jd  16 days ago
          One word...money. UMaine controls all the expenses and reaps all the money (i.e. ticket sales, concessions, store, 50/50 raffle, etc...). To move to the Cross they would have to split with the management company and the city of Bangor all of these items. Add the cost of police details and an ambulance (all of which UMaine supplies at Alfond) and the dollars and cents just don't add up to moving the team to the Cross.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Organizer: Bangor’s July 4 celebration to be bigger than ever despite $100,000 embezzlement

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        Friday, June 21, 2013: Background checks, wind power and adult education

        • jd2008jd  17 days ago
          I feel the same way about Wiki....
        • jd2008jd  17 days ago
          Question Momma which comes from the yahoo search you linked to above. The question is based on the third paragraph of a PRNewswire story called "Gun Violence Survivors, Faith Leaders, And Local Activists Rally In Concord To Hold Senator Ayotte Accountable For Voting Against Tough-On-Crime Background Checks Bill"
          My question is this: Was the list that John Cantin delivered to Senator Ayotte's office of more than 6,000 names of people who have been MURDERED (emphasis mine) with guns since the December shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown the same list read at the rally in Concord?

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        Friday, June 21, 2013: Background checks, wind power and adult education

        • jd2008jd  17 days ago
          Mr. Hayes states that criminals have been denied a firearm "more than a million times under the NICS system." Good...the system works. But what Mr. Hayes fails to mention is how many of those criminals are charged with the federal crime associated with the attempt to purchase and further how many are convicted of the crime.
          To answer that question here is one source "Enforcement of the Brady Act, 2010: Federal and State Investigations and Prosecutions of Firearm Applicants Denied by a NICS Check in 2010" and was paid for with US Department of Justice Funds.
          The study states in part on page 9:
          "Data on enforcement of the Brady Act is available for the five - year period from 2006 to 2010. Selected statistics from each year’s cases are summarized in Appendix table I. FBI referrals of NICS denials to the DENI Branch decreased about 1%, from 77,233 in 2006 to 76,142 in 2010. The DENI Branch’s referrals to ATF field divisions decreased nearly 50%, from 9,432 for 2006 to 4,732 for 2010. Unlawful possession investigations decreased by 26% from 2006 to 2010 and investigations that resulted in a firearm retrieval decreased by over 21%. The number of charges referred by field offices for prosecution fell by over 77%, from 273 for the 2006 cases to 62 for the 2010 cases. The number of charges that resulted in guilty pleas and verdicts fell by about 82%, from 73 for the 2006 cases to 13 for the 2010 cases." Source - https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles...
          So again I ask why are we not enforcing existing laws?
          In 2010:
          76,142 denials under NICS resulting in
          4,732 referrals to ATF field divisions which resulted in
          62 actual cases moving forward which resulted in
          13 guilty pleas and verdicts
          This is crazy! Someone attempts to purchase a firearm from a FFL, fails the background check and stands a 0.00081427% chance of a criminal investigation actual moving towards prosecution and a 0.00017073% chance of actually be convicted. I stand a better chance of being struck by lightening (0.00033333) in my lifetime!
        • jd2008jd  17 days ago
          Momma with all due respect here is evidence you asked for.
          "Report details Dexter family murder-suicide, calls for new way of handling of domestic violence cases"
          "Steven Lake should have been in a jail cell on June 13, the day he killed his estranged wife and their 13-year-old son and 12-year-old daughter, the report argues. He was awaiting a July 5 court date, when he was to face charges for threatening his family with a handgun on June 14, 2010."
          "In the year that Amy Lake’s protection from abuse order was active against Steven, he violated that order at least five times but spent fewer than two days in jail for those violations, the report found. He also stalked her on Facebook, it said."
          "The fifth time he defied the protection order, he killed his family and then himself at the house at 173 Shore Road in Dexter where Amy and her children were living."
          "Steven Lake shouldn’t have had access to the weapon he used to kill Amy, Monica and Coty, according to the report. It said law enforcement should have inventoried Steven’s arsenal of about 20 guns and made sure he couldn’t get his hands on them, as required under state statute."
          DA Chris Almy says otherwise but this is the same person that claims there is no penalty for failing to report child abuse when you are a mandated reporter. There is...it's a civil fine but it is a penalty. I have lost all faith in DA Almy over this and the Carlson case.
          If the existing laws had been enforced. If the police had inventoried the firearms as required by law and presented to the judge. If bail had been set at a higher amount. If he wasn't given FIVE chances when he showed he just didn't get it.
          That's what I mean when I say we aren't enforcing existing laws.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Here is another interesting little fact about the list....the list included terrorists, suicides, home invaders shot by home owners during the course of their crime, murderers who turned their guns on themselves, and police officer shootings of criminals.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          How was the list presented at the rally in New Hampshire?
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Where you in New Hampshire? If you weren't you have no idea how the list was presented do you?
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          It would be easy o prove me wrong wolf. You only have to show the post where you defend a persons rights under the Second Amendment.
          Once you do that you can call me a lier all daylong. Until then it's a personal attack
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          We're you at the rally in New Hampshire? I doubt it so really you don't know how the list was presented to those in attendance. The MUL is presenting the facts as they are reporting on the rally. Again please stop with the personal attacks.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Just admit you cannot provide the source post where you have defended a persons rights under the Second Amendment. Not contesting it is not defending it.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Yes it is a personal attack when documented sources have been provided that says otherwise. Your personal attacks and name calling are tiresome. If you have an issue with what the Manchester Union Leader is calling the "list" take it up with them.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Read the last sentence of the post above. I answered your question. "NO LETS CALLOUT CRIMINALS INSTEAD." "Questionable backgrounds" leaves a great deal of room for interpretation.

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        Friday, June 21, 2013: Background checks, wind power and adult education

        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Haven't changed one thing. You made a statement I responded to that statement.
          Provide one post where you have defended a persons rights under the Second Amendment.you can't because you lump us all together.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Simple typo from using an iPhone to post with
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          You asked for sources I'm providing the, your issue is with the sources not me. Please discontinue the personal attacks.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          We aren't talking about every fact. We are talking about facts that either support or detract from your stated position.
          By the way the former a mayor and Police a Chief also claimed the proposed background check would have "prevented" Newtown as it would have barred the shooter from purchasing the firearm used. Mr. Hale pointed out that wasn't the case as the shooter stole the firearm after killing his mother. What did the former Mayor do? Nothing he just moved onto his next talking point ignoring that he was wrong or ignorant of the facts of Newtown.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          And we resort to name calling which is par for the course when dealing with wolf.
          What was the purpose of the list? Why were at least three criminals that died at the hands of the police on the list?
          Maybe I will ask George Hale to replay the interview with the former Mayor of Lewiston to serif he used the words "victim list". I seem to recall he used the words "gun violence victims" over and over. He was incidentally promoting the reading of this "list" during the interview.
          He also made the erroneous claim that a "background check would have prevented" the Newtown shooter "from purchasing his firearm". To Mr. Halle's credit he pointed out he stole the firearms after murdering his mother.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          There is already a law at the federal and state level that prohibit felons and others from owning or possessing firearms. It's not enforced in many cases at both levels.
          The US Justice Department does not prosecute violations of the current background check law.
          There's a family in Dexter dead because the police never conducted the inventory required by law after a conviction on domestic abuse charge. It's required under Maine law and oops...sorry and no penalty or disciplinary action was taken
          It's also convenient to blame and ignore what isn't being currently enforced.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          We don't enforce the laws we have already it is unlawful under state and federal laws for a felon to own, borrow, possess, etc...a firearm but we don't prosecute those that attempt to purchase one and fail the background check. That's a fact.
          You seem to ignore facts when they get in the way of the agenda you defend.
          Want to call out "questionable" people? No lets callout CRIMINALS instead.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Nope. Not once have you defended law abiding citizens and their rights under the Second Amendment. Not once.
          You wish to limit things that don't exist i.e. "assault weapons".
          You support every proposal of President Obama's plan to prevent another Newtown and ignore not one of his proposals would have prevented the anew town shooter from doing what he did.
          Shall I continue?
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          When have you ever separated out legal gun owners from criminals. You want to limit what a law abiding citizen can do based on a criminal. Let's try enforcing those laws already on the books including those which President Obama's Justice Department seem to ignore...remember those statistics that show how few criminals are prosecuted for attempting to purchase a firearm.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          By that logic Secretary of State Powell only read what someone else prepared for him and relied on other agencies reports when he appeared before Congress and the UN about WMDs and Iraq.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Friday, June 21, 2013: Background checks, wind power and adult education

        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          You do that every time you post.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          No I want some honesty and checking of facts prior to people making statements that are factually inaccurate. Here is the link to the story....incidentally I was wrong about the location. It was Princeton not Baileyville. http://bangordailynews.com/200...
          And it not a "reach" if you are out promoting your position on a topic and using your background as an authority on the matter to expect them to be able to answer questions put to them accurately.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Why use a list with the names of people killed by law enforcement officials then?
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Well let's see....you want sources. Well I did list the one from New Hampshire and I can list more if you like.
          The list used also contained Christopher
          Dorner who was shot and killed by law enforcement officers in February and Kevin Bailey, who was killed by police after opening fire on officers during a traffic stop. Source -http://www.unionleader.com/art...
          Here is another Source - http://www.unionleader.com/art...
          And here is an Editorial (I don't care for words like "pawns" or "zealots" but it is an editorial) - http://www.unionleader.com/art...
          I'm not using "distortions" or anything else....just facts. Sorry if you disagree but facts are facts.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          So it's OK to include police involved shootings in a list being used to make a case about "illegal guns"? We have nothing further to discuss.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Momma let it go? No can't do that. Just like the former Mayor of Lewiston stating that he and the police Chief of Portand stating they cannot "recall" a legal gun owner preventing a crime here in Maine EVER on WVOM the other morning. The one that immediately came to mind was the grandmother in Baileyville that held a home invader at gun point a couple of years ago.
          The more often misinformation or distortions are allowed to be repeated the more the come to be fact.
          This group is using distorted information and untruths to promote their cause. That's dishonest.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          If a group calls themselves Mayors Against Illegal Guns uses a list that includes police involved shootings isnt dishonest then I don't know what is. Is it "illegal" for a police officer to discharge their weapon in defense of themselves or the public?
          They didn't check the lust and just took it at face value. You don't find it reprehensible to include police officer involved shootings in a list being used by a group calling themselves "Mayors Against Illegal Guns"? Respond if you wish but I know you'll call me "dishonest" or that I'm "derailing" the conversation by bringing this up.
          Get out and enjoy the beautiful weather wolf...winter will be fast upon us.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          So the purpose of reading the lust was what? Did they list other "victims" if police gunfire? Was the list purposely over inflated? Why did Slate put the terrorist on the list in the first place? Isn't it "dishonest" (to use a word you use) to place a name of a person that murdered people with a bomb and was later shot and killed by police on the same list as (as Momma stated) a 13 year old unidentified boy?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Former UMaine hockey coach Whitehead takes position at New Hampshire prep school

        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          No argument but the on ice Captains are supposed to be leaders and motivators too. There is more than enough blame to go around and it's going to be interesting season coming up. The bulk of the team and even many of the freshmen were recruited by Whitehead.
        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          Yes he "wrecked" the program. I guess the team and team "captains" have no responsibility for the teams record.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Friday, June 21, 2013: Background checks, wind power and adult education

        • jd2008jd  18 days ago
          In there haste to make a point they included a terrorist as a victim and didn't "know" it. Momma the Mayors Against Illegal Guns has caste themselves as "knowing" what is best for America and is proposing "solutions" based on that "knowledge". But if that "knowledge" is based on faulty facts what does it become?
        • jd2008jd  19 days ago
          Ms. Royal while I admire your opinion I have to say using a group like the Mayors Against Illegal Guns as your "source" for supporting information is distressing. This is the group that named Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaevas a "victim" of gun violence. Tsarnaevas is NOT a victim and shame on you for using a group that would so name Tsarnaevas as one.http://www.unionleader.com/art...

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        Former UMaine hockey coach Whitehead takes position at New Hampshire prep school

        • jd2008jd  19 days ago
          So a contract is meaningless? If you had a contract and your employer broke it you would just walk away? Some how I highly doubt it.
        • jd2008jd  19 days ago
          Why do you even care...he's gone.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor chamber signs lease on new waterfront headquarters

        • jd2008jd  19 days ago
          "The Arena was a citizens referendum after the people you choose to protect already approved it at the council level."
          The Council voted for it yes. The new arena had been talked about for at least a decade. Some Bangor citizens disagreed with the decision and gathered enough signatures to force a city wide vote. They lost.
          ~~~~~
          "Many newspaper articles how the chamber forced the people into it."
          Please provide ONE newspaper article that says the Chamber of Commerce "forced the people into it". Just one.
          ~~~~~
          "Along with southerland and Weston oop's I mean Lis's marketeting @50K the product, the vote went your way."
          Did you expect the proponents not to campaign for it? That's there right as is the opponents right to campaign against it.
          ~~~~~
          "At least now and then you folks attempt to make it look legit."
          Who are "you folks"? If you are referring to the chamber I am not a member.
          ~~~~~
          "You guys are good I'll give you that and I never
          thought any different. You have my respect as to be able to get what you want done on the taxpayers dime."
          Business leaders are by definition "leaders". They don't lead by sitting on the behinds and watching others do things. Did you ever stop and think that maybe, just maybe the business leaders have a vision for Bangor that goes beyond malls and people moving away?
          ~~~~~
          "It's the only money anyone wants to invest anymore."
          You do realize that the money used to pay the bond back are coming from the revenue generated by Hollywood Casino? Now if you are going to claim "what about the upkeep and maintenance costs?" My response will be who paid for the upkeep and maintenance of the old auditorium and civic center.
        • jd2008jd  19 days ago
          Last time I checked the citizens of Bangor VOTED for the Cross Center. Am I mistaken about that?
          And wasn't Alex Gray and the WFC series happy with the old orientation of the stage? Wasn't the shifting of the stage due to citizen complaints about noise? And the Council didn't have to move earth if they had left the orientation of the stage alone did they?

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        Orono man enters not guilty pleas in Cable kidnapping, murder

        • jd2008jd  20 days ago
          Even if Maine re-instituted the death penalty it would not apply to him. He can only face the penalty on the books at the time of the crime.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor voters turn out to determine fate of school budget, library roof bond

      • Discussion on Dog Food Advisor

        Natura Again Recalls Innova, EVO, California Natural and Others

        • jd2008jd  21 days ago
          This is what happens when you get bought out by a large international company. In this case Purina

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        Bicyclist drinking water at time of fatal collision with Canadian truck in Trek Across Maine, police say

        • jd2008jd  21 days ago
          In your mind I'm sure you see it that way. But others see your posts for what they are...attacks on a person who can no longer defend himself.
          You haven't even been able to bring yourself to say that your sorry he lost his life. That says more about your character then you could possible know.

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        Bicyclist drinking water at time of fatal collision with Canadian truck in Trek Across Maine, police say

        • jd2008jd  21 days ago
          Ryan the poster has been in attack mode since the story broke last week. He has attacked the rider over and over. He has not once said "gee....I sorry for your lose", but has revealed the death of this young man.
          Articles that involve death are very emotional and people forget the person have family, friends, co-workers, etc... It's time Mr. Green grew up and realized that.
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          The original post has been edited which is the posters right. The original post was "bike".
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          Personal defense weapon is a Glock 23. I also have a Ruger P85 but I find it to heavy for concealed carry. I also have a Mossberg 12G with the first two shells being bird shot (decided to give the person a chance) followed by 00 buck. So to answer your question...yes you really need to stop assuming things that you have no clue about.
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          To bad that you cannot find it within yourself to express condolences to the family. It's really very very sad.
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          You should learn not to lump people into categories based on posts. I don't ride bicycles or motorcycles. But I do know the young woman that rear ended me a few weeks ago was following to close. Do you think she learned something from that considering she was blaming me for stopping?
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          Why can you not express condolences to the family of this young man?
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          A "bike" is a human-powered, pedal-driven, single-track vehicle, having two wheels attached to a frame, one behind the other.
          So please explain how a "bike" did something "wrong" or are you of the school that guns kill people?
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          Bike is an inanimate object...it cannot do anything "wrong".
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          The bicyclist did something bicyclists do dozens of times during a long ride. But I assume you are perfect...you never adjust your GPS while driving....you never drink a cup of coffee while driving....you never eat a breakfast sandwich from a fast food joint....you never adjust the volume of the radio or change stations...etc...etc...etc...
          Nothing "self righteous" about my comment...people are not perfect and they make mistakes. Sometimes those mistakes lead to death.
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          I'm not a mind reader and I have no idea what you are "thinking" but your lack of compassion and refusal to express your condolences is very telling.

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        Bicyclist drinking water at time of fatal collision with Canadian truck in Trek Across Maine, police say

        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          She is an attorney and would eat your lunch in a court of law.
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          Did the trucker do anything wrong? No
          Did the biker do anything wrong? No
          It was an accident but please continue crowing and forget about the man's family if that makes you feel better. I know your position will mean nothing to the family grieving over this accident other than increasing their pain.
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          So what you are saying is you cannot find it in yourself to offer condolences to the family....how nice of you.
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          With the exception of you and a handful of others that were blaming the biker many posters were asking to wait until all the info came out. This was an ACCIDENT...was it preventable? Maybe...maybe not. But bottom line it was an accident and a young person lost his life riding to help others.
          Do you think you can look inside yourself and offer condolences instead of blame?
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          "He" is a "She"
        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          I believe judging by the lack of incidents and accidents over the years the bicyclists DO recognize their responsibilities. A trek like this is not something you just jump on a bike and do. It takes training and lots of practice. I personally know 3 bicyclists that have cycled the trek multiple times and not one of them has ever just jumped on their bike without lots and lots of training.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor parking proposal would make tire chalking a thing of the past

        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          So are we making an assumption that a politician or a politicians relative is making money on the "license plate technology" or do you really know this to be a fact?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Stephen King’s scary library needs $9 million repair

        • jd2008jd  22 days ago
          "We didn't pay a penny towards the civic center, now we do."
          If you are referring to the old Bangor Auditorium and Civic Center the citizens have been paying many, many, many dollars to the "upkeep" and "maintenance" of that facility. Yes the citizens of Bangor are going to continue to pay for the "upkeep" and "maintenance" of the new one too.
          If you were referring to something else, could you please be a bit more specific?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Bangor residents to decide school budget, library roof loan in Tuesday election

        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          Where's OSHA that you said was going to "investigate" the "workplace safety violations"?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Police identify tractor-trailer driver questioned in death of Trek Across Maine bicyclist

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Police identify tractor-trailer driver questioned in death of Trek Across Maine bicyclist

        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          Hardly. Just speaking the truth.
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          "Upset"? LOL I don't get upset over trolls.
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          No I just enjoy shining the light on folks such as yourself.
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          Troll
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          If you are unable to stop you vehicle you are going to fast. Bikes, motorcycles share the road. Do you maintain the same speed when two vehicles are approaching from opposite directions and two people are walking on the shoulder? No. One slows down and allows the other vehicle to pass and then the vehicle that slows down passes with due care. At least that's the way I drive.
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          You really need to go back under your bridge Troll.
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          I've been hit more than a few times traveling the roads and byways of Maine and this country and not once was it by a bicyclist.
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          How do you know the Maine Coast Cycling Club doesn't?
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          Please explain how the death of a young man and a bicycle race is about Republican and Democrat politics.
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          Yes...YOU. Because you could have said the same thing. That it's not about politics but you didn't and you took it to a whole new level with your rant.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Police identify tractor-trailer driver questioned in death of Trek Across Maine bicyclist

        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          You cheapen this persons memory by making this about left and right. I thought "progressives" were the "tolerant" ones?
          How about demonstrating some of that "tolerance" by leaving the politic rants out of the conversation.
        • jd2008jd  23 days ago
          The only reason it's about politics is due to people like you that make EVERYTHING about politics.
          This IS about a young man losing his life trying to help people he doesn't know.
          When you and others bring politics I to it you dishonor this person memory.
        • jd2008jd  24 days ago
          "No charges filed" does not equal "bicyclist" at fault. It simply means "no charges filed".
        • jd2008jd  24 days ago
          It's not about politics.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Trek Across Maine cyclist dead in collision with tractor-trailer in Oxford County

        • jd2008jd  24 days ago
          I drive 40,000+ miles a year just for work. I have seen many, many commercial trucks doing very stupid and dangerous things.
          Ex: pulling back into the travel lane and forcing the car they were passing off the road or into the breakdown lane.
          Ex: Exceeding the reduced speed limit of 45 mph on the interstate in a snow storm causing white out conditions when they pass cars that are observing the reduced speed limit.
          Ex: Swerving from the travel lane into the passing lane in an attempt to strike a crown feeding on roadkill.
          Respect, safety and common sense are a two way street.
        • jd2008jd  24 days ago
          I could also share stories about truck drivers blowing by when the speed limit has been reduced to 45 mph causing white out conditions on the interstate.
          About truck drivers speeding up on passing lanes so you cannot pass.
          About truck drivers weaving back and forth on cell phone.
          About truck drivers forcing cars off the road or into the breakdown lane by entering the travel lane to soon.
          About truck drivers swerving in an attempt to hit a crow in the roadway.
          I have seen all of the above and more...I hope you brother-in-law is not one of those I have witnessed.
        • jd2008jd  24 days ago
          Then petition your elected representative to introduce those changes you mention. Until then SHARE THE ROAD!
        • jd2008jd  24 days ago
          The roads belong to all...bikes, cars, trucks, motorcycles....ALL
        • jd2008jd  24 days ago
          And you base that on what?
        • jd2008jd  25 days ago
          How about truckers that obey the speed limit and not tailgate?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Trek Across Maine cyclist dead in collision with tractor-trailer in Oxford County

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Mike Michaud registers Michaud2014.com, officially explores Blaine House bid

        • jd2008jd  25 days ago
          Representative Michaud has carried the 2nd Congressional District several times and very easily too. The 1st Congressional District is far more liberal and progressive then the 2nd CD so I really cannot agree with your claim that he "cannot win a Statewide seat in Maine."
        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          Not sure how that would work out. Funny thing is it wasn't a problem when Governor Baldacci was elected not once but twice with less than a majority vote. Why is it a problem now? Why didn't people demand it following the 2002 & 2006 election?
        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          Some people vote "party line". Others vote to prevent another candidate from winning. Still others vote for those that most closely agree with opinions of issues.
          Which one are you?
        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          At one point in time people were saying the same thing about Sue Collins. Don't hear that any more now do we.
          If you do not believe Mike Michaud is the right person for the job come up with something better than "sexual preference".

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        With support from 23 Republicans, House gives preliminary OK to state budget

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Thursday, June 14, 2013: Government hurting preschools, get care close to home

        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          Note to BDN - I do believe the headline of "Comments for: Thursday, June 14, 2013: Government hurting preschools, get care close to home" should read "Comments for: FRIDAY, June 14, 2013: Government hurting preschools, get care close to home"
          Does anyone proofread the electronic version?

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Maine Senate approves hospital repayment plan

        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          Are you referring to Iraq? Because if you are, just because WMDs were not found doesn't mean they didn't exist. We know they existed as the were used against their own people. We know they existed as they were used in the Iran-Iraq war.
          EVERY major intelligence agency in the world believed the same thing, that Iraq had WMDs.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Maine Senate rejects call to nix concealed weapons permit requirement

        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          Yes mutual respect is what we need and it is very lacking and is evidenced every day on this site.
          And I stand by my post. I read for comprehension and not for what I want to "see" in a post.

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Maine Senate approves hospital repayment plan

      • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

        Maine Senate rejects call to nix concealed weapons permit requirement

        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          They cite multiple prior decisions in the Heller decision. You really should read the decision.
        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          You would do well to read the SCOTUS Heller decision before you post anything about the Second Amendment.
        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          If a terrorist wants to harm us they will find a way....Boeing 757s, 767s & pressure cookers come to mind.
          It is already illegal for a convicted felon to purchase from a FFL or from a private citizen a firearm of any kind.
          "Crazy" people are also prohibited as are illegal drug users.
        • jd2008jd  a month ago
          Who said anything about "a gun is a tool to gain respect"? Do you often read into other peoples quotes?

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