Sunday, June 16, 2013

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Bangor Daily News June 16th, 2013

JD's posts:


  • Police identify tractor-trailer driver questioned in death of Trek Across Maine bicyclist

    • jd2008jd  2 hours ago
      Troll
    • jd2008jd  3 hours ago
      If you are unable to stop you vehicle you are going to fast. Bikes, motorcycles share the road. Do you maintain the same speed when two vehicles are approaching from opposite directions and two people are walking on the shoulder? No. One slows down and allows the other vehicle to pass and then the vehicle that slows down passes with due care. At least that's the way I drive.
    • jd2008jd  3 hours ago
      You really need to go back under your bridge Troll.
    • jd2008jd  3 hours ago
      I've been hit more than a few times traveling the roads and byways of Maine and this country and not once was it by a bicyclist.
    • jd2008jd  3 hours ago
      How do you know the Maine Coast Cycling Club doesn't?
    • jd2008jd  3 hours ago
      Please explain how the death of a young man and a bicycle race is about Republican and Democrat politics.
    • jd2008jd  3 hours ago
      Yes...YOU. Because you could have said the same thing. That it's not about politics but you didn't and you took it to a whole new level with your rant.
    • jd2008jd  9 hours ago
      You cheapen this persons memory by making this about left and right. I thought "progressives" were the "tolerant" ones?
      How about demonstrating some of that "tolerance" by leaving the politic rants out of the conversation.
    • jd2008jd  9 hours ago
      The only reason it's about politics is due to people like you that make EVERYTHING about politics.
      This IS about a young man losing his life trying to help people he doesn't know.
      When you and others bring politics I to it you dishonor this person memory.
    • jd2008jd  20 hours ago
      "No charges filed" does not equal "bicyclist" at fault. It simply means "no charges filed".

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Police identify tractor-trailer driver questioned in death of Trek Across Maine bicyclist

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Trek Across Maine cyclist dead in collision with tractor-trailer in Oxford County

    • jd2008jd  a day ago
      I drive 40,000+ miles a year just for work. I have seen many, many commercial trucks doing very stupid and dangerous things.
      Ex: pulling back into the travel lane and forcing the car they were passing off the road or into the breakdown lane.
      Ex: Exceeding the reduced speed limit of 45 mph on the interstate in a snow storm causing white out conditions when they pass cars that are observing the reduced speed limit.
      Ex: Swerving from the travel lane into the passing lane in an attempt to strike a crown feeding on roadkill.
      Respect, safety and common sense are a two way street.
    • jd2008jd  a day ago
      I could also share stories about truck drivers blowing by when the speed limit has been reduced to 45 mph causing white out conditions on the interstate.
      About truck drivers speeding up on passing lanes so you cannot pass.
      About truck drivers weaving back and forth on cell phone.
      About truck drivers forcing cars off the road or into the breakdown lane by entering the travel lane to soon.
      About truck drivers swerving in an attempt to hit a crow in the roadway.
      I have seen all of the above and more...I hope you brother-in-law is not one of those I have witnessed.
    • jd2008jd  a day ago
      Then petition your elected representative to introduce those changes you mention. Until then SHARE THE ROAD!
    • jd2008jd  a day ago
      The roads belong to all...bikes, cars, trucks, motorcycles....ALL
    • jd2008jd  a day ago
      And you base that on what?
    • jd2008jd  2 days ago
      How about truckers that obey the speed limit and not tailgate?
    • jd2008jd  2 days ago
      You must have been an eye witness....tell us, what did you see.
    • jd2008jd  2 days ago
      Nice way to say "I'm sorry for your loss."

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Mike Michaud registers Michaud2014.com, officially explores Blaine House bid

    • jd2008jd  2 days ago
      Representative Michaud has carried the 2nd Congressional District several times and very easily too. The 1st Congressional District is far more liberal and progressive then the 2nd CD so I really cannot agree with your claim that he "cannot win a Statewide seat in Maine."

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    With support from 23 Republicans, House gives preliminary OK to state budget

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Thursday, June 14, 2013: Government hurting preschools, get care close to home

    • jd2008jd  3 days ago
      Note to BDN - I do believe the headline of "Comments for: Thursday, June 14, 2013: Government hurting preschools, get care close to home" should read "Comments for: FRIDAY, June 14, 2013: Government hurting preschools, get care close to home"
      Does anyone proofread the electronic version?

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Mike Michaud registers Michaud2014.com, officially explores Blaine House bid

    • jd2008jd  3 days ago
      Not sure how that would work out. Funny thing is it wasn't a problem when Governor Baldacci was elected not once but twice with less than a majority vote. Why is it a problem now? Why didn't people demand it following the 2002 & 2006 election?
    • jd2008jd  3 days ago
      Some people vote "party line". Others vote to prevent another candidate from winning. Still others vote for those that most closely agree with opinions of issues.
      Which one are you?
    • jd2008jd  3 days ago
      At one point in time people were saying the same thing about Sue Collins. Don't hear that any more now do we.
      If you do not believe Mike Michaud is the right person for the job come up with something better than "sexual preference".

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Maine Senate approves hospital repayment plan

    • jd2008jd  3 days ago
      Are you referring to Iraq? Because if you are, just because WMDs were not found doesn't mean they didn't exist. We know they existed as the were used against their own people. We know they existed as they were used in the Iran-Iraq war.
      EVERY major intelligence agency in the world believed the same thing, that Iraq had WMDs.
    • jd2008jd  3 days ago
      But at least they can spell
    • jd2008jd  3 days ago
      He did nothing different then thousands of other draft age males. Even Bill Clinton found a way to avoid the draft.
    • jd2008jd  3 days ago
      What "threat" was contained in the Governors bill?

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Maine Senate rejects call to nix concealed weapons permit requirement

    • jd2008jd  3 days ago
      Yes mutual respect is what we need and it is very lacking and is evidenced every day on this site.
      And I stand by my post. I read for comprehension and not for what I want to "see" in a post.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Maine Senate approves hospital repayment plan

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Maine Senate rejects call to nix concealed weapons permit requirement

    • jd2008jd  4 days ago
      They cite multiple prior decisions in the Heller decision. You really should read the decision.
    • jd2008jd  4 days ago
      You would do well to read the SCOTUS Heller decision before you post anything about the Second Amendment.
    • jd2008jd  4 days ago
      If a terrorist wants to harm us they will find a way....Boeing 757s, 767s & pressure cookers come to mind.
      It is already illegal for a convicted felon to purchase from a FFL or from a private citizen a firearm of any kind.
      "Crazy" people are also prohibited as are illegal drug users.
    • jd2008jd  4 days ago
      Who said anything about "a gun is a tool to gain respect"? Do you often read into other peoples quotes?
    • jd2008jd  4 days ago
      You might try reading the SCOTUS Heller decision. They address that point very well.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Cringes, gasps as Bangor councilor says LePage ‘hits the bars’ rather than focusing on issues

    • jd2008jd  4 days ago
      Some people will go to any length....you seem to be one of those people.
    • jd2008jd  4 days ago
      I have a feeling that the German Jews, homosexuals, Gypsies, Poles, developmentally disabled, etc...that experienced the horrific dark side of the Third Reich would have a very different take on the Germany of the 1930s and 1940s.
    • jd2008jd  4 days ago
      Nope....ignorance exist on both sides of the political spectrum,

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Maine Senate rejects call to nix concealed weapons permit requirement

    • jd2008jd  4 days ago
      Oh you can scream till the cows come home. No one can stop you from screaming whatever you want for as long as you want. Just be prepared to face the consequences.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Bill to allow Mainers to carry concealed weapons without permits falls by one vote in House

    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      If you do not believe that the singling out of certain groups based on certain words while other groups are not subjected to providing donor lists, books read, etc...as an example of abuse of governmental power than I honestly do not know what to say to you.
      How do you feel about the NSA having copies of every call you have made from your cell phone and who you called? How about that email or text message you sent? I am fairly certain you and others will say, "Well I have nothing to hide". Really? Are you sure there is nothing that could not be used to someones benefit?
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Isn't it a bit hypocritical to complain that someone isn't answering your question when you ignored AntiMSM1776 question in the original post?
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Do you include the state of Vermont in the "ignorant redneck state" category?
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Well if you hadn't responded to AntiMSM1776 in the way you did I would not have asked you the question I did.
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      So that would be a negative on finding "where the covert obtaining of emails, phone records, etc...of American citizens is allowed" in the U.S. Constitution then?
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Please point to the part in the U.S. Constitution where the covert obtaining of emails, phone records, etc...of American citizens is allowed.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Cringes, gasps as Bangor councilor says LePage ‘hits the bars’ rather than focusing on issues

    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      My "boss"? Since my "boss" works in the private sector he earned his position...no one voted him in.
      Do you have any other off topic comments to make?
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Since when is setting the record straight "touchy"?
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Seems the citizens of Bangor disagree,

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Cringes, gasps as Bangor councilor says LePage ‘hits the bars’ rather than focusing on issues

    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Only if it's true.
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Keep voting people....it only makes me smile.
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Seems that at least eight people do think two wrongs make a right.
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      I'm just fine thank you for asking. Oh and licking of boots, shoes, etc...is not good for you on a number of different levels including parasites, etc...
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      And what does ones weight have to do with anything?
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Hmmm....I do believe I have established my relationship with Bob Carlson more than once.
      Let me see if I remember your position. You knew he wasn't what he claimed to be but did nothing about it. You claim you couldn't because "people" didn't believe you.
      I on the other hand have publicly stated how I "knew" Bob Carlson. Through a professional organization which met once a month for several years. I never attended the church he was affiliated with. I never served on any boards nor received any money from any group or employer of his.
      When he took the dive off the bridge I asked that people withhold judgement until the facts were known. Once those facts became know I have advocated that those that seemingly knew (2 Bangor officers, 1 PCSO Deputy and 1 "councilor") should have been held accountable.
      Absolutely nothing wrong with my memory Cap...it's just not as selective as some that I know.
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      Do two wrongs make a right?
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      While I read your post above I purposely did not respond to it. But for some reason you decided to respond to my post with untruths.
      They ONLY thing I have suggested to you was to let go of the hate you hold for the town officials of a certain southern Penobscot town. It's just unhealthy for you.
      Please not there are no personal attacks directed at you. Have a good evening Cap and remember...."stay low and be safe!"
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      The "first term" councilor had the opportunity to learn how to act in a positive manner and instead took the same low road.
    • jd2008jd  5 days ago
      And responding in this manner accomplishes nothing.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Maine state trooper shoots man in West Paris

    • jd2008jd  6 days ago
      The Nuremberg Defense that you brought up was "I was just following orders". Not it didn't happen or anything else.
    • jd2008jd  6 days ago
      No, that was the "I was just following orders" defense.
    • jd2008jd  6 days ago
      Just sensitive? Not in the least. Just wondering why you posted what you did.
    • jd2008jd  6 days ago
      And your point would be what?
      I happen to know a Bangor officer in the same position. One of the nicest persons you would ever meet.
    • jd2008jd  7 days ago
      Would it not be better for all concerned to wait until there is just a bit more info before you hang the officer out to dry.
    • jd2008jd  7 days ago
      Or maybe he didn't.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Students try out new paintball course in Holden

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Drinking at Fort Knox during military dinner raises ire

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Drinking at Fort Knox during military dinner raises ire

    • jd2008jd  7 days ago
      It's listed in the Rules and makes no mention of Maine law and is listed with "intoxication" which hasn't been a crime in years and "coarse language" which is protected speech.
      By the way smoking is prohibited and specifically lists the Maine Law that prohibits it.
      The event was CLOSED to the public. Only members of the MNG and their guests were allowed access to the "dining in".
    • jd2008jd  7 days ago
      If a murder occurred during an event that the FOFK "arranged" would you hold them responsible for the murder?
    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      And that has what to do with the "price of tea in China"?
    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      But you fail to understand that the liquor license is the caterers responsibility and they are ultimately responsible if a "liquor law" violation occurred.
    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      Could you cite the law which you claim was broken please and thank you. I found a "rule" but no reference to any law.
    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      It's a rule, not a law.
    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      I did and no where does it mention what you are claiming. See my response to you above.
    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      "My belief, and the mission statement of our BPL, makes it clear that such events must be related to the site."
      Here is the Mission Statement I found
      "Mission The Maine Bureau of Parks and Lands protects and manages the natural and cultural resources under its care in order to offer a wide range of recreational and educational opportunities and provide environmental and economic benefits for present and future generations."http://www.maine.gov/doc/parks...
      I find nothing that says "events must be related to the site". If that is the case there should be no weddings at any state site as weddings are not "events" that are "related to the site" and we all know that weddings and birthday celebrations are held at various state parks and historic sites across the state.
      The "rules" say something different entirely..."The use of these areas shall be limited to the purposes for which
      they are being preserved and to activities determined by the Bureau to be compatible with the intended use of the facility."http://www.maine.gov/doc/parks...
      and yes, it does says that alcohol is prohibited but does NOT say it is a violation of state law, "Intoxicating beverages are not permitted." http://www.maine.gov/doc/parks...
      So is your beef with the caterer serving bottled beer when they shouldn't have or that the Fort Knox site is managed by the FOFK because truly, it's difficult to tell from your various posts.
    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      So who do you want prosecuted?
      The Maine National Guard for consuming the alcohol where prohibited?
      The catering company for violating both the state law and serving in violation of its liquor license?
      The FOFK for granting permission where permission could not be granted?
      All three (3) or a combination for the three (3)?
    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      What is the "intended reason for being" then?
      Please list them.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Drinking at Fort Knox during military dinner raises ire

    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      The trouble is there are one or two people looking for every opportunity to yell "CITIZENS ARREST...CITIZENS ARREST" like Gomer Pyle did on Andy Griffith.
    • jd2008jd  8 days ago
      Could you point to the place in the article it mentions "the religious right" please and thank you.
    • jd2008jd  9 days ago
      And it would be the caterers liquor license at risk if they served alcohol where they are not supposed to.
    • jd2008jd  9 days ago
      That's not what the article says. It says "...road to Fort Knox and the caterers had begun setting up...". It sounds like the "caterers" were not the FOFK but a private catering company.
    • jd2008jd  9 days ago
      And if those events were not taking place how many visitors do you think would be there on any given day. Keep in mind those people attending those events pay the cost of admission which helps keep that park open.
    • jd2008jd  9 days ago
      Both the person that provided the alcohol and the 17 year old are subject to legal penalities. Not just the one that provided the alcohol.
    • jd2008jd  9 days ago
      Actually, the FOFK did not violate Maine Law...it was the folks that brought the alcohol to the event. As you are for absolute enforcement of laws that would be the Maine National Guard. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
    • jd2008jd  9 days ago
      Yes they do all the time....
      Pulled over for speeding and you get a verbal warning rather than a ticket. That's called discretion.
      Written warning instead of a ticket. That's called discretion.
      It happens all the time...and yes I was a officer and practiced discretion ALL the time.
      By the way the persons subject to arrest and prosecution is not the FOFK...it would be the people that brought the alcohol to the event...The Maine National Guard.
      Addendum - By the way the persons subject to arrest and prosecution is not the FOFK...it would be the people that brought the alcohol to the event...The caterer in this case.
    • jd2008jd  9 days ago
      Law enforcement officers ALWAYS have discretion of when to or when not to enforce a law with very few exceptions i.e. murder, rape, etc...

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Cross Insurance patriarch takes ceremonial seat at $65 million Bangor arena

    • jd2008jd  10 days ago
      The sound stage is paid for by Alex Grey and WFC series. They have paid for the stage each year it has been there. No city money was or has been used for the tents, fencing, lighting, stage, etc...
      If not for the revenue stream from Hollywood Casino the new arena would not have been built in the first place.
      The old Bangor Civic Center and Auditorium was supported by city money. I don't recall you complaining about that why?
      Fact of the matter is many city services and functions could be privatized....motor pool, ambulance service, etc...The city and your tax dollars supports far more than essential city services.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Cross Insurance patriarch takes ceremonial seat at $65 million Bangor arena

    • jd2008jd  10 days ago
      Correct and you know they didn't how? Did you witness that too and do nothing? And who is to blame for doing nothing?
    • jd2008jd  10 days ago
      Well thanks to your lack of follow through we will never know will we.
      It's that, or you never saw anything in the first place to report and your posts are nothing more than a major case of envy and sour grapes.
    • jd2008jd  10 days ago
      Maybe you have strong opinions but you claim to witness things and do nothing with that information and experience. What good is that experience if you do nothing with it other than post it on the BDN comment board?
    • jd2008jd  10 days ago
      Last I checked ALL of the listed functions continue to occur.
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      Nope and you a paid agitator?
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      What special events?
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      "Who was invited to the hanging of the last I Beam and who got to sign it. I'm sure your name is on it."
      My name? Really? Obviously you think I am someone I am not.
      ~~~~~
      "Who decided who was going to sign it? and why."
      Normally the city officials would be one group. The construction company, etc....
      ~~~~~
      "OSHA wants to know".
      OK....good. If there are work place safety violations let the chips fall where they may. Not sure how you know that tomorrow is the day for OSHA but OK.
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      Zero and I not complaining about it or believe that I should be.
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      Did you or did you not observe elections irregularities? If you did you have a responsibility to report it otherwise you lose all credibility bringing it up what 1, 2 years later.
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      Try reading your post and then my response or didn't you see what you claim to see.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Cross Insurance patriarch takes ceremonial seat at $65 million Bangor arena

    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      Yup and you're promoting one.
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      But your missing one very important point....
      If it weren't for the WFC series or the new Arena there would be no additional money in the local economy at all. Therefore there would be nothing to "pull out" as you say.
      You can say whatever you want but I believe the WFC series and new Arena will mean additional money in the local economy and that is good for both the businesses that take it in and the employees that work for them.
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      Well let me see if I can clarify my post some for you.
      Company X normally takes in $5,000.00 on a given Saturday. During a concert weekend that amount doubles to $10,000.00.
      That "extra" money may be used to "up staff" Company X to handle the increased customer volume. That is additional money in those employees that were requested to work on a day they would not normally.
      That "extra" money may be used to purchase additional provisions, items, etc...to replenish the extra items that were sold, used, etc... Those provisions, items, etc...may be purchased locally, regionally or nationally.
      That "extra" money may be used for future expansion of the business as demand increases for the items the sell, provide, etc...
      See what I'm saying?
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      So if I take in say $10,000 more than normal none of that money is spent locally?
      So where do those people eat, purchase fuel, shop, etc...while they are in Bangor?
      If I have to "up staff" that's not of benefit to the employees?
      Economics is not your strong suit I see.
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      "Glamor"?
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      Again....what did YOU do with this information?
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      "AAA"? "political radio shoes"?
      Is everything a "conspiracy" in your world?
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      And you often spend time in the camps of people and groups you disagree with?
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      "Since then the people who voted it in have been refused a viewing all
      the while a select few have had dozens of viewing of the progress."
      I don't think Cianbro has 33,000+/- hard hats kicking around.
      ~~~~~
      "Yet the citizens will be required to pay for it's management and operating cost."
      Actually the city hired a management company to manage "The Cross". Best move the city has made in ages. And why would you expect the "operating cost" to be paid by someone else. Who paid the "operating cost" on the old one?
      ~~~~~
      "What is so upsetting is there is a group who have taken ownership of the Arena without your knowledge or permission."
      Really? A more accurate description is one or two disgruntled BDN posters are upset. I haven't seen one letter to the editor expressing that a "group" of people has "taken ownership of the Arena without" their "knowledge or permission".
      ~~~~~
      "Many a personal and private events have already taken place
      there without notification to the general public."
      Can you provide one example of "personal or private events" that have taken place and please include event name, date and time and what part of "The Cross" was used (i.e. the Arena floor, civic center room, etc...)
      ~~~~~
      "These people are claiming it as their own without the consent of the citizens of Bangor."
      These "people" exist in your imagination unless you can provide names, dates, times and places.
    • jd2008jd  11 days ago
      Were events at the original Bangor Civic Center and Auditorium "free" to Bangor citizens?
      If not, please explain why a change in policy is required now.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Cross Insurance patriarch takes ceremonial seat at $65 million Bangor arena

    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      Don't think I said that....nope I didn't.
      The WFC series & events at the auditorium bring people to Bangor tats would not come otherwise. Those people spend money and tat money circulates in the local & states economy.
      That money keeps people employed. That money helps pay state and local taxes.
      Do you want that money spent locally or not?
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      And the proof would be what? Did you report the violation of law to the Secretary of States office?
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      And you reported this election breach to the Secretary of States office right?
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      Gee I didn't realize the old auditorium didn't cost the city a penny to run, heat, repair,etc...
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      You mean the vote that was demanded by the opponents of the arena?
      The vote that the opponents gathered signatures for and forced the city to hold?
      The vote that was held just like all city elections?
      That vote?
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      I know of one Bangor hotel that has sold out every room they have at $200.00/night when Phish comes to town.
      That's money that pays property taxes, wages, etc...and is cycled through the local economy.
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      I've heard many things too....do you know this to be a fact or is it a rumor?
      And since contracts with the city of Bangor are a public document you should be able to provide the proof rather dealing in the realm of rumors.
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      Maybe you missed the news story when the CITIZENS of Bangor VOTED for the new arena.
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      Maybe you missed the city wide vote that was held....The citizens VOTED for the arena.
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      1) The city taxpayers VOTED for this new arena.
      2) Hollywood Casino is paying for the majority of the project through a dedicated revenue stream which the City Council placed in a separate account.
      3) The downtown TIF could also be used if the Hollywood Casino revenue falls or does not live up to expectations.
      Yes ultimately the city taxpayers are on the hook but the funds are there for repayment of the bonds.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Corrections officer shoots himself in thigh

    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      Why would a teacher be holstering or unholstering a firearm in a classroom of students if there was no threat of deadly force being used against him/her or their students?
    • jd2008jd  12 days ago
      110% correct.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    LePage’s TV and cart cost taxpayers $1,483

    • jd2008jd  15 days ago
      When does presenting factual material (the number of days since the governor presented his budget proposal and
      the number of days since he offered a bill to pay off the state’s debt
      to its hospitals) become "propaganda"?

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Maine legislators consider taxing nonprofit organizations

    • jd2008jd  15 days ago
      If "Property tax relief ( circuit breaker and homestead )" = "tax cuts" and "eliminating them" = "a tax INCREASE" doesn't that mean when my payroll "tax relief" was "eliminated" in January that was a tax INCREASE TOO!
    • jd2008jd  15 days ago
      Could you please show us where in either the U.S. Constitution or the Maine Constitution is says "non-profits" are tax exempt.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Tea party activists threaten to shoot Susan Collins during conference call

    • jd2008jd  15 days ago
      I don't know....I haven't heard the tape. Tapes are released all the time to back up claims.
      Remember the tape recording made by Progress Kentucky of the private conversation of Sen. Mitch McConnell's campaign staff? That was all over the news and internet....why isn't this one?
    • jd2008jd  15 days ago
      You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the Second Amendment. That is YOUR interpretation and NOT one that is generally accepted.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Bangor police release report on man’s death after being hit with Taser

    • jd2008jd  16 days ago
      How would you suggest a police officer handle someone in "excited delirium" then?
    • jd2008jd  16 days ago
      As I recall he gave up drinking years ago.
    • jd2008jd  16 days ago
      Go back and read the post again as you obviously didn't the first time.
      The protocol for dealing with someone on bath salts or agitated delirium is: reason with them and if that doesn't work employ a Taser and then sedate them using Lorazepam (Ativan).
      Unfortunately one of the side affects of bath salt use and excited delurium is cardiac arrhythmia, cardiac arrest and death.

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    WABI TV5 and UMaine part ways; Bangor station to televise high school football

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    Bangor police release report on man’s death after being hit with Taser

    • jd2008jd  17 days ago
      And a firearm is lethal almost 100% of the time? How many times has a Taser been used vs. the number of times the person died in any given year?
    • jd2008jd  17 days ago
      Do you often change posts after a person has responded? Do you think that little of your position that you cannot stand on your stated belief?
    • jd2008jd  17 days ago
      And where do you think we live? Russia? Cuba?
    • jd2008jd  17 days ago
      Thank you for answering the question asked. You have zero first hand knowledge or experience in dealing with anyone under the influence of bath salts.
      The drug induced paranoia causes these folks to lash out and "fight" things that are not there. This puts the general public at risk and also the officers that need to deal with people under the influence of bath salts.
      The accepted protocol is Taser followed by several courses of Lorazepam (Ativan) which could require the response of multiple ambulances to have the necessary amount of
      Lorazepam (Ativan) on hand to maintain the patient in a sedated state.
    • jd2008jd  17 days ago
      Not in the least...but I have dealt with bath salts. Have you?
    • jd2008jd  17 days ago
      If he were armed the officers would have been justified in using "deadly" force, i.e. a firearm.
      A Taser is considered less than lethal force.
    • jd2008jd  17 days ago
      Have you ever dealt with anyone on bathsalts? They see things that are not there...they often feel they are being "attacked" when no one is...basically they experience a deep drug induced paranoia.

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    Tea party activists threaten to shoot Susan Collins during conference call

    • jd2008jd  17 days ago
      The actual recording pretty...I thought someone of your intelligence would have understood the question.
      In other words....why hasn't someone released the actual recording of the conversation?
    • jd2008jd  17 days ago
      Has anyone actually heard the recording?

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    Thursday, May 22, 2013: Imported drugs, NRA and Americans-in-waiting

    • jd2008jd  23 days ago
      Maybe you should go to a gun show here in Maine. I have been to one and purchased a firearm and completed the same paperwork as I would in a brick and mortar store. Just a suggestion to learn if we have a problem here in Maine.
      The problem I have is we don't enforce many if the laws we currently have on the books. So why have them? I had both a CCW and and Firearm ID when I lived in Massachusetts. They have a law that mandates a minimum of 1 year and a maximum of 2 1/2 years if you are caught with a firearm without the proper licenses or permits. But they don't enforce it. So what is the Great and General Court (fancy name for the legislature) thinking about doing? Upping the penalty to a minimum of 2 years in prison. Well if they aren't enforcing the existing why increase the penalty? It's not a "deterrent" if they aren't enforcing what they have. Are they doing it to "feel good"? I have no idea other than it makes no sense.
      I also enjoy and learn from our debate and discussions. I just might show up at that meeting...and out of respect I would not carry open or concealed...not that I do much anyway.
    • jd2008jd  23 days ago
      I've said that I have no issue with extending background checks. But you said it perfectly...only those following the existing laws will follow the new law.
      I believe rather than focusing on law abiding citizens we should shine the light on the person committing the crimes in the first place.
      Why when faced with a criminal element do we focus on the citizen that follows the law?
    • jd2008jd  23 days ago
      And not one of the firearms purchased was from a FFL...not one. One wasn't even at the gun show but in the parking lot between two private individuals. How do control that? Answer you don't.
      6 "gun shows" across three states and the total take...one semiautomatic rifle and three semiautomatic. If they were trying to prove how "easy" it is I don't think they were very successful.
    • jd2008jd  23 days ago
      The first sentence of the last paragraph is telling "Experts believe that tightening controls on Europe's legally owned guns may be more important than curbing the flow of illegal weapons into Europe."
      Sure it's easier...it's always earlier to curb what a law abiding person does than a criminal.
      This is the edited version of what happened in England the other day. Aside from the brutality of the attack the thing I found most disturbing were the bystanders that did.....nothing with the exception of one woman that tried to help the 25-year-old machine gunner, drummer and father of a 2-year-old boy.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
      I don't know Momma...but I guess I prefer living in a country that doesn't keep on walking when they see a person run down and hacked to death or in a society where the authorities find it easier to control the law abiding citizen then going after the real problem....the criminals that beak the law.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      They are cosmetic features. They have no impact on the firing cycle of the firearm and do not increase the lethality of the firearm one iota.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      You Tube? The folks that brought us FEMA Death Camps, 9/11 was a False. Fag operation, the FEMA coffins on the railroad sidings, etc...that YouTube?
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      Is this French Minister living in France or the U.S.? And his experience in the black market would be what?
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      Just wondering are you the one organizing the meeting? I ask as the "by line" in your link is you.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      Why don't you take a road trip out Rt1A in Holden and drive past MMS and see for yourself. I don't live in a static state and neither does the world.

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    Silent No More

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    Thursday, May 22, 2013: Imported drugs, NRA and Americans-in-waiting

    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      I always keep in mind where my fingers pointed and your response doesn't remove the factual inaccuracies of that post.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      I was responding to chenard's post where she posted "Name one elected official who has proposed a bill calling for the total elimination of individual ownership of any firearms..." Nothing was taken out of context.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      Sorry to disappoint you wolf but that particular quote was not made up. If you wish to harp on that all day long it's fine by me.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      Have t changed anything. I've gotten used to your little games wolf. If you don't wish to answer a question that's your choice. It also the readers choice to draw a conclusion based on that refusal.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      I answered your claim I made something up. Asked and answered.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      As you like the speed limit comparison here is a comparison you might understand.
      I own a Toyota Camry with a 4 cylinder engine and standard equipment. If I remove the Camry body leaving just the frame change nothing mechanically and replace the body with a Lexus body has the performance of the car changed one bit? Or is it still a 4 cylinder Toyota with a fancy (cosmetic) upgrade?
      That is exactly the same thing as removing the barrel and receiver assembly from a wooden stock and placing it in a black polymer stock. You have the same barrel and receiver assembly which operates the same way but it looks different.
      What makes the firearm "look" different is cosmetic in nature. It's still a semiautomatic firearm the fires and cycles in the same manner as it did before.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      There was nothing made up about "dark and scary". It has been said on these pages and by both sides. I know two people that find the AR-15 cut outs on the gates to Maine Military Supply "dark and scary". MMS recently had "over 50 black guns in stock" on their road side sign.
      I would love someone to explain how taking a receiver and barrel assembly out of one stock and inserting it into another stock makes the firearm more lethal. No one wants to address it because it is an arbitrary definition.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      I wonder if the BDN will ban you for that comment as they did Larry T. Doughty.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      You asked a question that included the word "any" followed by the word firearm. "Any firearm" does not mean "all" firearms. The move to ban "assault weapons" as a class of firearms meets the definition of "any firearms".
      On a personal note who said I was "retired"?
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      The question that needs to be asked and answered is when does someone lose a constitutional right.
      Is it when a person is diagnosed with depression?
      When they receive prescription medication for treatment?
      Is it when they voluntarily commit themselves to a psychiatric hospital for treatment?
      Is it when they involuntarily committed to a psychiatric hospital for treatment?
      Is it when they make threats to harm themselves or others?

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    Thursday, May 22, 2013: Imported drugs, NRA and Americans-in-waiting

    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      Are you attempting to "derail" the conversation wolf by bringing in unrelated topics and companies?
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      Isn't a ban on "assault weapons" and ban on ANY and all "assault weapons"?
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      Never said it was what Ken Fogelman said or meant. I was responding to chenard's post that asked for "Name one elected official who has proposed a bill calling for the total
      elimination of individual ownership of any firearms and provide a link to the text of the proposed bill.."
      As for a link here is one from this year that calls for the ban and/or registration of any and all "assault weapons" based on specific characteristics. The legislation has been introduced in at least two states, Minnesota and Missouri.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      "Name one elected official who has proposed a bill calling for the total elimination of individual ownership of any firearms and provide a link to the text of the proposed bill.."
      Minnesota House of Representatives H.F. No. 241, as introduced - 88th Legislative Session (2013-2014) calls for the banning and/or registration of ANY firearm that meets certain physical characteristics.
      And here are nine elected officials who proposed the bill
      Representative Alice Hausman
      Representative Frank Hornstein
      Representative Erik Simonson
      Representative Jim Davnie
      Representative Linda Slocum
      Representative Rena Moran
      Representative Raymond Dehn
      Representative JoAnn Ward
      Representative Phyllis Kahn
      And before it is claimed "this in Minnesota....it's only one state" the exact same legislation (almost to the crossed "T"s and dotted "I"s) was introduced in Missouri.
      And when the law fails (if passed) to prevent another Newtown the water in the pot will be turned up and the frog dies just a bit more.
    • jd2008jd  24 days ago
      Minnesota House of Representatives H.F. No. 241, as introduced - 88th Legislative Session (2013-2014)https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin...
      It's like putting the frog in the pot of water and slowly increasing the temperature until the frog is dead. It doesn't know enough to get out of the water as it's slowly boiled to death.
      It starts with "well intentioned" and "common sense" proposals to "limit high-capacity magazines" and creating "assault weapon" classifications as shown in the above example.
      The original legislation list 17 specific firearms and is replaced with words like:
      "semi-automatic rifle"
      "capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:"
      "a pistol grip or thumbhole stock;"
      "any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;"
      "folding or telescoping stock"
      "shroud attached to the barrel"
      and similar language is used for pistols and shotguns.
      So when these laws fail to prevent another Newtown they heat will be turned up again and we move from magazines that hold 10 rounds becoming "too many" and we move to 7 rounds like New York just did. Then the balance of the semiautomatic firearms become "assault weapons" and well meaning elected representatives introduced "well intentioned" and "common sense" proposals to "limit high-capacity magazines" which are now anything greater than 7 rounds and adding additional semiautomatic firearms to the "assault weapon" classification.
      And when that doesn't stop another Newtown the water in the pot gets a bit hotter again until nothing is left. Of course that would be fine with many people...especially criminals.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      I truly do not care what you think I am trying to do....but no one seems to want to define the term "assault weapon". Why?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      I guess you missed her proposed bill to not only re-institute the 1994 AWB but extend it to additional semiautomatic firearms based on physical characteristics and not on lethality.
      But didn't you just post above "If that's what this conversation devolves into, I'm not going to engage in it" so why do you continue to respond?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Really? How can you ban or regulate something if no one is willing to define it?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      You made several factually inaccurate comments wolf. I know you will deny and point fingers but remember this....when you point one finger at someone else you have three pointed back at you.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      "The topic is the letter, not what one Senator has said ~20 years ago."
      So why did chenard change the subject?
      ~~~~~
      "You can stop trying to derail the discussion."
      Derail? Chenard asked a question. I (and one or two others) answered the question. You don't like the answer so while I didn't ask the question I become in your narrow minded world view the source of "derailing" the conversation. Yeah right!
      ~~~~~
      "You can stop distorting the quotes."
      What about the quote is "distorted". Senator Feinstein said what she said. It's a matter of record.
      ~~~~~
      "You can stop lying about things."
      And now the name calling begins. It's what you always resort to when you have nothing else.
      ~~~~~
      "It's enough -- save our integrity and defend what's actually defensible. Seriously."
      My integrity is just fine but thank you for asking and for your concern.

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    Thursday, May 22, 2013: Imported drugs, NRA and Americans-in-waiting

    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      No "rhetorical questions" asked Robert. Seems chenard has dropped off the thread.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      I don't recall chenard limiting the time frame in his question.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Can you define what an "assault weapon" is?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Which one of the proposals would have prevented Newtown?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      And your statistical source is?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Keep drinking the KoolAid supplied by Schultz, Miller, etc...
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Nothing "obscure" about the quote. It's well know and very easy to find.
      Senator Feinstein is, was and continues to advocate for the elimination of "any" and all "assault weapons".
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      And Senator Feinstein was, is and continues to advocate for the elimination of "any" and all "assault weapons".
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Naughty...naughty...personal attacks are expressly prohibited on the BDN comment board.

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    Police chiefs oppose bill that allows Mainers to carry concealed weapons without permit

    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Mitt you can call this nation anything you want but it doesn't change fact.
      Please note no name on my part. Name calling is normally the sign of someone losing the argument/debate.

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    Thursday, May 22, 2013: Imported drugs, NRA and Americans-in-waiting

    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      And she has, was and is advocating for the elimination of any and all "assault weapons". Parse the words anyway you wish...the average listener/reader knows exactly what she meant.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Asked and answered twice...not going to address it again. Time for you to answer a question.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Sorry chenard but I did read your "query: it asks for one
      legislator who has "advocated the elimination of ANY (emphasis mine) private ownership of firearms.""
      Any -
      1) one or some indiscriminately of whatever kind,
      2) one, some, or all indiscriminately of whatever quantity,
      She has advocated for the elimination of private ownership of "assault weapons" which meets the definition of your query of "any".
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      "Read my query: it asks for one legislator who has "advocated the elimination of ANY (emphasis mine) private ownership of firearms.""
      Any -
      1) one or some indiscriminately of whatever kind,
      2) one, some, or all indiscriminately of whatever quantity,
      She has advocated for the elimination of private ownership of "assault weapons" which meets the definition of your query of "any".
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Could you define what an "assault rifle" is chenard?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Well Ms. Cole....Senator Feinstein was and is advocating for is the banning of semiautomatic firearms like the Mini-14 which wouldn't be "banned" in a wooden stock configuration but remove the barrel and receiver from the wood stock and insert it into a polymer black stock and it's magically becomes a "assault weapon" subject to arbitrary regulation.
      How does a firearm become more dangerous because it is removed from a wood stock and placed in a polymer black stock when no modifications or changes are made to the receiver?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Please see my response above.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      What she is advocating for is the banning of semiautomatic firearms like the Mini-14 which wouldn't be "banned" in a wooden stock configuration but remove the barrel and receiver from the wood stock and insert it into a polymer black stock and it's magically becomes a "assault weapon" subject to arbitrary regulation.
      How does a firearm become more dangerous because it is removed from a wood stock and placed in a polymer black stock when no modifications or changes are made to the receiver?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Trap....hardly. You asked the question and got the answer. She HAS advocated for the elimination of private ownership. I don't care if it was one "type" of a mythical "assault weapon" which you know doesn't exist in private ownership.
      What she is advocating for is the banning of semiautomatic firearms like the Mini-14 which wouldn't be "banned" in a wooden stock configuration but remove the barrel and receiver from the wood stock and insert it into a polymer black stock and it's magically becomes a "assault weapon" subject to arbitrary regulation.
      How does a firearm become more dangerous because it is removed from a wood stock and placed in a polymer black stock when no modifications or changes are made to the receiver?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Senator Dianne Feinstein: "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out-right ban, picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here." CBS-TV's "60 Minutes",
      February 5, 1995

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    Police chiefs oppose bill that allows Mainers to carry concealed weapons without permit

    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Well I just finished reading your post and I see where your problem starts and that is with the mistaken belief that the United States is a "democracy".
      In a "democracy" everyone would get a vote and that's just not the case. We don't vote on each and every law. We don't even directly elect the President.
      We are a "Constitutional Republic". We elect people that represent us. If you don't like the way they represent us "we" get the chance to elect someone new every two years in the case of the House and every 6 years in the case of the Senate.
      Our Founding Fathers designed a government with three branches they intended to be equal in all respects. Unfortunately there have been times in our history where one branch of government attempted to exert more power or influence (this may be one of those periods) over the other branches.
      We don't elect the Justices of the SCOTUS and that is the way it was designed, is and should be. Otherwise we would extend the same problem we have on Capital Hill where money buys access and influence and I don't think that is what you want.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      I probably know and understand more about what one can and cannot do with a firearm than your average person.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      But he didn't did he. He did NOTHING wrong or illegal other than ruffle some people's feathers.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Because it is and will remain illegal for a felon to own, possess, carry, etc...a firearm. The laws does not change that fact.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Yes by all means lets use the "no fly list" as an example of something that works!!
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      When were drivers licenses, owning a car and applying pesticides added to the Bill of Rights on the federal level or the Maine Constitution?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      How many people in Maine are arrested each year for carrying a concealed weapon without a permit that are not arrested on another charge at the same time?
      How does Vermont do it EG?
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      "So why is "Opps, I did not know it was loaded" such a special and acceptable excuse ?"
      Special and acceptable? Not in my book. Before I clean any firearm it's cleared not once but twice.
      ~~~~~
      I cannot think of one state that does not have law on the books called "reckless conduct with a firearm" or some such statue. Many states also have laws about securing a firearm so a child should not be able to access it and discharge it. If those laws are not enforced you can blame the DA/AG and add them to the list of firearm laws that go unenforced in this country.
    • jd2008jd  25 days ago
      Hmmmmm...."wrong"....let me think about that.
      It would depend on which side of the case you are on. If you are on the side that the SCOTUS rules in favor of then no. If you are on the side that the SCOTUS rules against then yes.
      I suppose if you were Ernesto Miranda you were exceedingly happy when the SCOTUS ruled in your favor and established "The Miranda Warning" in 1966. I doubt Arizona was pleased with the decision. Oh, Miranda v. Arizona (1966) was also a 5-4 ruling.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Happy reading Mitt
      District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) Decision:
      (1) The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
      (a) The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause’s text and history demonstrate that it connotes an
      individual right to keep and bear arms.
      (b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court’s interpretation of the operative clause. The “militia” comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists
      feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that
      the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved.
      (c) The Court’s interpretation is confirmed by analogous
      arms-bearing rights in state constitutions that preceded and immediately followed the Second Amendment.
      (d) The Second Amendment’s drafting history, while of dubious interpretive worth, reveals three state Second Amendment proposals that unequivocally referred to an individual right to bear arms.
      (e) Interpretation of the Second Amendment by scholars, courts and legislators, from immediately after its ratification through the late 19th century also supports the Court’s conclusion.
      (f) None of the Court’s precedents forecloses the Court’s interpretation. Neither United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542 , nor Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 , refutes the individual-rights interpretation. United States v. Miller,
      307 U.S. 174 , does not limit the right to keep and bear arms to militia purposes, but rather limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes.

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    Police chiefs oppose bill that allows Mainers to carry concealed weapons without permit

    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      So when would you remove that right Michael?
      When a person feels depressed?
      When they start taking prescription psychotropic medication? Please keep in mind that some psychotropic medications (i.e. Bupropion (Wellbutrin)) are used to treat other conditions.
      When a person is diagnosed with depression, etc...?
      When a person voluntarily commits themselves for treatment?
      When?
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      No swifty...it was an issue because a) there was a property dispute and b) he decided to open carry his firearm. Now you claim this was used in a CCW class correct? Why would they use an example of someone OPEN carrying in a CONCEALED carry class?
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Cars...trucks....knives....hands....feet....clubs....rocks....all have, do and will continue to kill people.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      As I stated above....There is no right to a drivers license or a car.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF MAINE
      Article I Declaration of Rights
      Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Like they do in Vermont?
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Oh it most certainly was a decision made based on politics. Doesn't make it right and you know that also.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Want to drug test me....fine and you would be wasting your time. Here are my conditions:
      1) state pays for it, and
      2) anyone receiving public assistance does the same and at no cost to them either.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Only article I could find on your point.
      http://www.pressherald.com/new...
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      And your system would "catch" the how?

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    Police chiefs oppose bill that allows Mainers to carry concealed weapons without permit

    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      That would be "here"....."Hearsay is admissible here."
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      And your friend did what about it? Nothing I'll bet. Instead they looked the other way and allowed their friend to continue down a self destructive path putting themselves at risk and breaking several laws in the process.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      To bad there is not a site that list people killed everyday by drunk drivers or motor vehicle accidents with alcohol involved, etc...
      The point is when people do stupid things with automobiles, firearms, knives, etc...people get hurt.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      So a person that is told it is illegal to possess a high-capacity magazine and does so anyway is a "silly little story"? Do you really want to stand on that principal?
      If the NRA is handing out "hush money" must have been in the wrong line because I didn't get any.
      As to my political leanings I support the 2nd Amendment, same sex marriage, fiscal responsibility, veteran's....if you want to label me "rightwinies" (which isn't even a word) isn't it.
      I also don't recall ever saying that I want a "wild west attitude".
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      There is no right to a drivers license or a car.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Didn't say it would prevent prosecution just that a law cannot prevent one from committing those acts.
      And I was responding specifically to "The Second Amendment speaks of a "well regulated" militia" comment.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      When was the last time a Maine LEO was shot and killed by a concealed carry permit holder?
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      The CDC already tracks that information and have for years.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Because there was a PROPERTY DISPUTE!!
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Actually, walking down the street in such a manner is perfectly legal and was tested in Portland several months ago when a man was walking with a AR-15 on his shoulder. A woman called the police and when they arrived, they checked him out and that was that. Nothing else was done.

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    Police chiefs oppose bill that allows Mainers to carry concealed weapons without permit

    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Then they are not felons then are they.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Spruce a felon cannot legally carry a firearm today, tomorrow, next week, next month or next year. Nothing in this law changes that fact. If you think a felon is going to allow a piece of paper prevent them from carrying a concealed weapon well, I have some spruce trees in Panama you might be interested in.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      In Maine you don't need a permit to carry a firearm outside your clothing.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      So Spruce....do you remember David Gregory intentionally breaking the D.C. high-capacity magazine ban when he pulled one out during Meet the Press? He was even told by the D.C. police not to do it but he did it anyway. Why wasn't he prosecuted for the "intentional violation of the law"?
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      My point was that an alcoholic can carry openly in the State of Maine. Alcoholic does not mean under the influence.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Another inane comment.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Really? Care to prove your "fact".
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Criminals (felons) by federal and state law are prohibited from owning, possessing, carrying, etc...a firearm so how would this prevent a law enforcement agency from making an arrest?
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Care to back up that statement with facts?
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      "Why don't you just ask to carry an automatic rifle around on your back wherever you do?"
      If you have the required federal permits and in those states that allow automatic firearms and open carry you certainly can.
      ~~~~~
      "There Is that constitutional?"
      Yup
      ~~~~~
      "Does NRA-zealotry have no common sense limit?"
      What is "common sense" to one person is "over reaching infringement" to another.

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    Police chiefs oppose bill that allows Mainers to carry concealed weapons without permit

    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Actually you can "yell fire in a theater", "publish classified information", and "hold a protest blocking access to an abortion clinic". A law cannot stop you from doing any of those things.
      As to a ""well regulated" militia" I refer you to District of Columbia v. Heller.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Psssst.....they can carry open without a permit too.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    NRA tactics: Take no prisoners

    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Open Secrets is a fine group to get info from. Pretty's problem is he ONLY looked at one organization not looking at the TOP dollar givers regardless of political affiliation.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      "...and yet MOST law enforcement support gun control" is a flat our lie.
      The rank and file street officer does NOT support gun control.
      The Atlanta Journal-Constitution 4/10/2013
      "Police officers: Obama's gun-control proposals would make things worse"
      ""Contrary to what the mainstream media and certain politicians would have us believe, police overwhelmingly favor an armed citizenry, would like to see more guns in the hands of responsible people, and are skeptical of any greater restrictions placed on gun purchase, ownership,
      or accessibility."
      That's the conclusion of Doug Wylie, editor of PoliceOne.com, in his write-up of a national survey of more than 15,000 law-enforcement officers about possible new restrictions on gun owners. Those would be the kind of new restrictions President Obama and Vice President Biden continue to campaign for."
      ~~~~
      PoliceOne.com
      "PoliceOne's Gun Control Survey: 11 key lessons from officers' perspectives"
      1.) Virtually all respondents (95 percent) say that a
      federal ban on manufacture and sale of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds would not reduce violent crime.
      2.) The majority of respondents — 71 percent — say a
      federal ban on the manufacture and sale of some semi-automatics would have no effect on reducing violent crime. However, more than 20 percent say any ban would actually have a negative effect on reducing violent
      crime. Just over 7 percent took the opposite stance, saying they believe a ban would have a moderate to significant effect.
      3.) About 85 percent of officers say the passage of the
      White House’s currently proposed legislation would have a zero or negative effect on their safety, with just over 10 percent saying it would have a moderate or significantly positive effect.
      and on and on it goes pretty....These are real police officers telling us what they think and what your putting out there is NOTHING BUT A LIE.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Odd I added the NYT to the search and still came away with nothing. Isn't that funny.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Oh you mean like President Obama does everyday of the week and twice on Sunday?

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Jeffrey Nugent says his brother Ted Nugent is wrong on background checks

    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Where do you draw the line?
      Do we remove a right when a person feels depressed?
      Do we remove a right when a person is given a prescription medication? Keep in mind some prescription medication like Bupropion (Wellbutrin) are used to treat depression AND as smoking cessation medication. Some medications are used "off label" by a provider to treat other non FDA approved disease states. One depression medication is also used as sleep aid.
      Do we remove the right when a person voluntarily commits themselves?
      Or do we remove the right when a person expresses suicidal ideations?
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Not worried about you at all....just an observation based on your prior post.
    • jd2008jd  a month ago
      Oh please....you give that power to him. He doesn't have that kind of power unless you yield that power to him.

  • Discussion on Bangor Daily News

    Maine State Police lieutenant not disciplined after gun went off during computer training session










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